Non-bullet punching scizor?

Hey, just wanted to think about a scizor that doesn't abuse technician or bullet-punch.

Scizor - Salac Berry - Swarm
252 in atk., 126 in speed, 130 in hp.
Can't decide on moveset:
-Substitute
-X-scissor
-Iron head
-Swords dance


-Endure
-Night Slash
-Iron Head
-X-scissor


Tell me what you think!

substitude > endure
your scicor will last longer that way cause with endure he will be killed with a priority move like quick attk or mach puch or a bullet punch x)

k, thanks. Ill choose that one instead.

they're pretty good
just one thing, replace x-scissor for bug-bite
it uses technician but its better than x-scissor in most aspects
its 10 more bp after stab and technician, and comes with the handy ability of being able to take berries from foes if they have them, which would pay off in the end

Darkravenn12 wrote:

they're pretty good
just one thing, replace x-scissor for bug-bite
it uses technician but its better than x-scissor in most aspects
its 10 more bp after stab and technician, and comes with the handy ability of being able to take berries from foes if they have them, which would pay off in the end

Well, his x-scissor will be stronger than a technician bug bite when boosted by swarm... The main purpose of the substitute. Otherwise he should just make it a swords dancing bullet punching scizor with bug bite and technician

Shnoogle wrote:

Darkravenn12 wrote:

they're pretty good
just one thing, replace x-scissor for bug-bite
it uses technician but its better than x-scissor in most aspects
its 10 more bp after stab and technician, and comes with the handy ability of being able to take berries from foes if they have them, which would pay off in the end

Well, his x-scissor will be stronger than a technician bug bite when boosted by swarm... The main purpose of the substitute. Otherwise he should just make it a swords dancing bullet punching scizor with bug bite and technician

wow fail
i just realized it had swarm
i honestly forgot scizor even had another ability, as literally no1 uses swarm
lol
ignore my comment

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wow fail
i just realized it had swarm
i honestly forgot scizor even had another ability, as literally no1 uses swarm
lol
ignore my comment

Lol, interesting how you forgot. But yea, its the reason why this would work.

This set can work, however your Ev's could use an upgrade and the moveset could use more options. Overall the new set should look like this:
This set is a bit more viable in my eyes. The Ev's just make it fast and strong, which is very very necessary. However, if you don't plan on running Reversal, lower your HP Iv's by 1 point (WOOHOO HP-DRAGON) to make your HP divisible by 4 so the Berry and Swarm activate and once and leave you with the highest amount of HP possible. The item depends on what stat boosting move you plan on using. SD sets or Baton Pass sets can use Jolly if they feel they need the speed.

Basically you just Sub up like Empoleon and then keep pumping out stat boosting moves till Swarm activates. X-Scissor deals tons of damage at this stage and starts mowing through enemies. The last slot kind of decides what you overall wanted to do. If you went for the 1 HP after the Subs, Reversal will be at 200 base power. Nothing else really needs to be said about that. Iron Head can work for Flinch hax and works for a second STAB and makes you much less weak to Ghost types. Baton Pass is one of the reasons to use this set over Empoleon: if it's walled it can pass off it's hard work. A great set that works hand in hand with this is Flash Fire Arcanine, Dry Skin Toxicroak, or Gliscor. A Zapdos or Rotom who may be ready to Heat Wave/Overheat could open up a massive sweeping opportunity for Arcanine if you can predict the switch. Bulky Waters like Suicune and Empoleon (who will wall the BP set) don't like giving Toxicroak a free switch in especially when it packs moves like Focus Punch (if you're confident with prediction or the Substitute), Cross Chop, Brick Break, and Thunderpunch. Gliscor is interesting because it gives you an option against Rotom's and Zapdos if you're convinced an Electric attack is more likely coming and can either use it or use it's own Baton Pass and keep the chain going while adding another Substitute or Agilities and Swords Dances of it's own.

my Scizor @life orb
Technician, Careful
EV's 252 Attack/4 Sp. Defense/252 Speed
X-Scissor
Iron Head
Aerial Ace
Brick Break

i never have problems with him, most battles he clears about half my opponents team with no problem


hope it helps :]

Lover_boy wrote:

my Scizor @light ball
Technician, Careful
EV's 252 Attack/4 Sp. Defense/252 Speed
X-Scissor
Iron Head
Aerial Ace
Brick Break

i never have problems with him, most battles he clears about half my opponents team with no problem


hope it helps :]

why does it have light ball?

nikodem123asdf wrote:

Lover_boy wrote:

my Scizor @light ball
Technician, Careful
EV's 252 Attack/4 Sp. Defense/252 Speed
X-Scissor
Iron Head
Aerial Ace
Brick Break

i never have problems with him, most battles he clears about half my opponents team with no problem


hope it helps :]

why does it have light ball?

extra attack the little boost can help depending what you go against

Light Balls for Pikachu did you mean Life Orb

leafshadow wrote:

Light Balls for Pikachu did you mean Life Orb

oh **** wow sorry im just over tired yes i ment the orb XD