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PostSubject: Offensive Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 7:29 pm

I had been wanting to find my niche' in the NFE spot.
I remembered dragonair, and put this together.
Basically a less powerful Dragonite.

EVs:
252 attack, 252 speed, 4 special defence

Nature: Jolly

Moveset:
Extremespeed
Outrage
Dragon rush
Aqua Tail

Item:
Choice band

Invoice?
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 7:50 pm

Waterfall > Aqua Tail
Waterfall has flinch hax and better accracy...
And i would go with just Outrage insted of Dragon Rush. You could put Iron Tail, or Body Slam...
You can even put a life orb and add dragon dance... But if you like it like that then go ahead its not bad its a pretty good move set.
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PostSubject: Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 9:37 pm

It looks good but you may want Life Orb unless its NFE only- With 84 Base Stat you need all the Power, neutral and SE you can get. I've personally tried it out in PBR-Uber Noobs fall to it in a single hit. Also, Dragon Rush is kinda a waste when paired up with OUtrage vs. Dragon Claw if your going on with that for your reliable STAB Dragon Rush isn't reliable and if your going for no reliability at all just stick Outrage singularly. There's my 2 cents.
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyTue Mar 09, 2010 9:43 pm

Ok, here's the new 'Formula' so to speak.

Same evs

Item: Life orb

Moves:
Dragon dance
Extremespeed
Outrage
waterfall
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyWed Mar 10, 2010 2:20 am

ScizzorTrainer wrote:
Ok, here's the new 'Formula' so to speak.

Same evs

Item: Life orb

Moves:
Dragon dance
Extremespeed
Outrage
waterfall

Looks a lot more solid and will tear stuff up when able to set-up nothing bad to add other then to watch out for Ice-Shard pokemon like mamoswine. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyWed Mar 10, 2010 7:49 am

ScizzorTrainer wrote:
Ok, here's the new 'Formula' so to speak.

Same evs

Item: Life orb

Moves:
Dragon dance
Extremespeed
Outrage
waterfall

And now you have the Dragonair that I use in NFE Smile

It works wonders!
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyWed Mar 10, 2010 4:41 pm

It looks like I can't really critique it since everyone has already said everything to improve it; but I just know herp-him is gonna come in here and be like "Why use a Dragonair if it's just a weaker version of Dragonite." Lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyWed Mar 10, 2010 5:18 pm

you know neku 2 great minds think alike
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyWed Mar 10, 2010 5:23 pm

ScizzorTrainer wrote:
Ok, here's the new 'Formula' so to speak.

Same evs

Item: Life orb

Moves:
Dragon dance
Extremespeed
Outrage
waterfall

In Smogon's forums (I don't know if any of you go there), there is a section for new sets / redoing analyses, and someone did one for Dragonair in UU. This was the set.
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive Dragonair   Offensive Dragonair EmptyWed Mar 10, 2010 5:34 pm

Inb4herp is gonna catch on at some point.

I read this thread when it first was posted and you have right in the title "it's a weaker Dragonite". However it is NFE so I can't say use Dragonite. ARB is right that it is a Smogon standard but even in UU it's inferior to Altaria in many ways though has an advantage or two. I am uneducated in the NFE metagame so I can't really give a rate but it seems to be standard enough that it'll work.
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