in my game i beat the E4 with my level 40 team, whixh actually wasnt that bad, with it having arcanine, scizor, gengar, togekiss, frealigatr, and amphros. olance freaking murdered me tho, and i won with 7 hp on my arcanine. i cant beat read at all tho as my team is only level 53 and his team is i the eightys.