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PostSubject: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:06 pm

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml

If you haven't seen this, it is all the sprites of all the black and white pokemon Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:21 pm

saw them right before you posted this and I am impressed! I am especially looking forward to Warubiaru, Ononokusu, Zuruzukin, and Sazando!
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:26 pm

#556 Marakacchi.

Metgame. Changed.

WATER ABSORB ON GRASS WTF.
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:29 pm

I looked at them all earlier and they're cool.
But what's even cooler is that the first gym leader is Water/Fire/Grass type.
Now that's awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:42 pm

cdplayar wrote:
#556 Marakacchi.

Metgame. Changed.

WATER ABSORB ON GRASS WTF.
Its a cactus
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:56 pm

cdplayar wrote:
#556 Marakacchi.

Metgame. Changed.

WATER ABSORB ON GRASS WTF.


I can see that thing going uber as soon as this game comes out in america.
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:01 pm

Momo wrote:
cdplayar wrote:
#556 Marakacchi.

Metgame. Changed.

WATER ABSORB ON GRASS WTF.
Its a cactus
your face is a cactus
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:02 pm

Temius wrote:
Momo wrote:
cdplayar wrote:
#556 Marakacchi.

Metgame. Changed.

WATER ABSORB ON GRASS WTF.
Its a cactus
your face is a cactus
Do you not know science

Cacti absorb water
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:17 pm

Momo wrote:
Temius wrote:
Momo wrote:
cdplayar wrote:
#556 Marakacchi.

Metgame. Changed.

WATER ABSORB ON GRASS WTF.
Its a cactus
your face is a cactus
Do you not know science

Cacti absorb water
Parasect is grass and has dry skin, which is basically the same effect but better b/c u gain hp in the rain. Only downside is fire hurts you more, but who cares, parasect isnt gonna live a fire attack anyway. An ember from a vulpix could prob ohko it.
Also, logic and pokemon dont match
look at cacturne, it doesnt have water absorb
and if u think logic works in pokes
look at skitty
it breeds with wailord
how does a tiny kitten breed with the biggest whale ever
That's like if ur cat breeds with another cat, and the kitten dives under the ocean and breeds with a whale
i mean wtf


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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:21 pm

Anyone else notice how like so many of these Pokémon are slower than Slowbro but have like 140 base attacking stats?

And look at #609... can you say #1 spinblocker of all time? Fire/Ghost with good bulk, 80 base speed and 145 base fricken special attack! That's insane!
Also has access to Flash Fire so it is an amazing Heatran counter.

These Pokémon seem to focus on massive HP along with low speed and great (sp.)attack or great speed and average attacking stats with decent defenses.

Also, that mole thing is going to be awesome. Steel typings allow so many easy switchins and it can tear apart things with immensely powerful EQs from very high attack. Sand power is also a great ability to go with a fast ground sweeper.

Then you have #567 who has 110 base speed and 140 base attack along with two great STABs to work with - Flying and Rock.

Zoroark also looks like it may be able to find a spot in OU...105 base speed is good, and 120 base special attack is also good, but with 60 defenses across the board (including HP) this thing isn't going to be switching in easily.

Not that they look like a top tier threat, maybe UU actually, but the ice cream cone Pokémon looks so awesome lol

#594 is a fish, maybe the evolution of luvdisc, that has base 165 HP... That's insane for a fricken fish haha


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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:28 pm

Momo wrote:
Temius wrote:
Momo wrote:
cdplayar wrote:
#556 Marakacchi.

Metgame. Changed.

WATER ABSORB ON GRASS WTF.
Its a cactus
your face is a cactus
Do you not know science

Cacti absorb water
SO DOES EVERY PLAAAAAAAANT!
Cactusface
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:31 pm

Shnoogle wrote:
Anyone else notice how like so many of these Pokémon are slower than Slowbro but have like 140 base attacking stats?

And look at #609... can you say #1 spinblocker of all time? Fire/Ghost with good bulk, 80 base speed and 145 base fricken special attack! That's insane!
Also has access to Flash Fire so it is an amazing Heatran counter.

These Pokémon seem to focus on massive HP along with low speed and great (sp.)attack or great speed and average attacking stats with decent defenses.

Also, that mole thing is going to be awesome. Steel typings allow so many easy switchins and it can tear apart things with immensely powerful EQs from very high attack. Sand power is also a great ability to go with a fast ground sweeper.
I love that there are more pokemon w/ immunity+boost abilities. It adds another layer to prediction. It's like a Rotom-H on steroids. Now make a water/electric Starmie
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:36 pm

Temius wrote:
Momo wrote:
Temius wrote:
Momo wrote:
cdplayar wrote:
#556 Marakacchi.

Metgame. Changed.

WATER ABSORB ON GRASS WTF.
Its a cactus
your face is a cactus
Do you not know science

Cacti absorb water
SO DOES EVERY PLAAAAAAAANT!
Cactusface
But they store it
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:53 pm

kinda like your face
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:00 pm

I got a game, who's gonna be uber.
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:04 pm

I would like to generalize about three things:

One: Rhyperior wannabes
Two: Slow pokemon
Three: Tsujaata's final evo is crap.

Thank you for taking the time out to listen to what i have to say.
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:07 pm

eaglehawks wrote:
I would like to generalize about three things:

One: Rhyperior wannabes
Two: Slow pokemon
Three: Tsujaata's final evo is crap.

Thank you for taking the time out to listen to what i have to say.
I know, I wanted a kickass snake.
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:10 pm

I think many of the Pokémon near the bottom have Uberish qualities. Zekrom and Reshiram definitely will be Uber... Their stats and typings are excellent, but 90 base speed is a bit disappointing seeing as the slowest current Uber not named Wobbuffet or Wynaut is Kyogre and Groundon who sit at 90 base speed themselves... I would think that the most common sets for them will be slow and bulky choice item users, such as Kyogre, or choice scarf sets.

At this point I am not sure if Zoroark will be an Uber... It has 60/60/60 defenses and its highest stat is 120 (Sp. Attack). Also when you consider that most dark types' move pools (outside of T-Tars) are a bit shallow and his best STAB move is 80 base power, I think he has a good chance of becoming OU. His ability, however, could push him over the Uber line for it being too supportive because if you cannot tell what Pokémon you are attacking, that gives said Pokémon an excellent opportunity to boost its stats and sweep things much easier. Of course all of this is just theorymon for now...

I am really anxious to see how the metagame develops =)
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:27 pm

Shnoogle wrote:
I think many of the Pokémon near the bottom have Uberish qualities. Zekrom and Reshiram definitely will be Uber... Their stats and typings are excellent, but 90 base speed is a bit disappointing seeing as the slowest current Uber not named Wobbuffet or Wynaut is Kyogre and Groundon who sit at 90 base speed themselves... I would think that the most common sets for them will be slow and bulky choice item users, such as Kyogre, or choice scarf sets.

At this point I am not sure if Zoroark will be an Uber... It has 60/60/60 defenses and its highest stat is 120 (Sp. Attack). Also when you consider that most dark types' move pools (outside of T-Tars) are a bit shallow and his best STAB move is 80 base power, I think he has a good chance of becoming OU. His ability, however, could push him over the Uber line for it being too supportive because if you cannot tell what Pokémon you are attacking, that gives said Pokémon an excellent opportunity to boost its stats and sweep things much easier. Of course all of this is just theorymon for now...

I am really anxious to see how the metagame develops =)
Dont forget there amazing abillity


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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:47 pm

The abilities aren't that great, really. They are better than the standard Pressure abilities for Ubers, but even so, it is just the ability Mold Breaker with a different name.
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:58 pm

Shnoogle wrote:
The abilities aren't that great, really. They are better than the standard Pressure abilities for Ubers, but even so, it is just the ability Mold Breaker with a different name.
Zeckroms abillty makes it so when it use a electric move it raise its S. Attack
Reshiroms is the same thing only with fire and Attack

I meant those
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:04 pm

Did anyone check the dream world Pokemon abilities? some of them are awful but there are others really interesting(Breeloom with Technician and Blaziken with Speed Boost come to mind)

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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:45 pm

Now rotom changes typing along with its form
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:49 pm

Why are there 3 Pokemons that are almost the same at the end of the page?
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PostSubject: Re: Warning! Black and White Spoilers!   Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:48 pm

Shnoogle wrote:
I think many of the Pokémon near the bottom have Uberish qualities. Zekrom and Reshiram definitely will be Uber... Their stats and typings are excellent, but 90 base speed is a bit disappointing seeing as the slowest current Uber not named Wobbuffet or Wynaut is Kyogre and Groundon who sit at 90 base speed themselves... I would think that the most common sets for them will be slow and bulky choice item users, such as Kyogre, or choice scarf sets.

At this point I am not sure if Zoroark will be an Uber... It has 60/60/60 defenses and its highest stat is 120 (Sp. Attack). Also when you consider that most dark types' move pools (outside of T-Tars) are a bit shallow and his best STAB move is 80 base power, I think he has a good chance of becoming OU. His ability, however, could push him over the Uber line for it being too supportive because if you cannot tell what Pokémon you are attacking, that gives said Pokémon an excellent opportunity to boost its stats and sweep things much easier. Of course all of this is just theorymon for now...

I am really anxious to see how the metagame develops =)
definitely an uber

Gir wrote:
Did anyone check the dream world Pokemon abilities? some of them are awful but there are others really interesting(Breeloom with Technician and Blaziken with Speed Boost come to mind)
Are those confirmed because I would love that.
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