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Should gen 5 battling start off with a ban list?
Yes, certain Pokémon should be banned from the start
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No, everything should be tested before we deem things broken or not
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Shnoogle

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PostSubject: If you aren't Evil, feel free to read this (=   Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:36 pm

Yes, this is about tiers in gen 5 (which concerns Smogon) so Evil just turn back now before you get mad.

Basically, the staff on Smogon are currently trying to decide whether to start the gen 5 tier list with everything allowed, or some things already banned. If they do decide to allow everything, then things like Kyogre, Mewtwo, Reshiram etc... will be tested along with all of the other Pokémon that were in the lower tiers in gen 4 such as Toxicroak and Scizor. The other side is that obviously broken things such as Kyogre and Dialga will already be listed as Uber when OU battling starts.

What's your take on this? Do you think that everything should go for the first couple weeks of battling while everything overpowered gets weeded out? Or do you think that some things do not need to be tested to be confirmed Uber?

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PostSubject: Re: If you aren't Evil, feel free to read this (=   Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:44 pm

i can't say, it really all depends on the uber in suspect. I'd say only ban pokemon instantly if it's a unanimous decision by the "committee" or whoever decides this stuff. Certain pokemon are obvious like mewtwo, but more subjective like Salamence.
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PostSubject: Re: If you aren't Evil, feel free to read this (=   Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:06 pm

I think it's important to see if any pokes have been brought up to ubers status. Anyway, regardless of whether a ban list is in order, people will still use ubers.
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PostSubject: Re: If you aren't Evil, feel free to read this (=   Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:42 pm

Yeah I don't think there should be a ban list to strat it out. They need to test it. new tier system would be cool though . Plus what fun will it be if you're not allowed to use some of the cool pokes when you first get the game
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PostSubject: Re: If you aren't Evil, feel free to read this (=   Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:18 pm

Technically, you can't have a ban list straight out, since it requires playtesting and a trial of making the cut or failing, but some are speculated to be deemed broken. People thought that Rhyperior was broken due to its Physical defenses and Solid Rock, but in the end it was in UU.


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PostSubject: Re: If you aren't Evil, feel free to read this (=   Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:55 am

I don't think this would be fair if we had an immediate ban list. We should give the battlers some time to deem what they feel is overpowered, and what isn't.
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PostSubject: Re: If you aren't Evil, feel free to read this (=   Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:30 am

They should test it out like they did in Gen 4...
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PostSubject: Re: If you aren't Evil, feel free to read this (=   Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:37 pm

They should test things out first as it we don't know how the metagame will be before banning pokemon we may be able to use Mence in this metagame but can't if he is banned from the get go.
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