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PostSubject: Prepare for long reading...   Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:47 am

OK so Reyscarface's team on Smogon - http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76014 - made me want to try OU again and use Forretress as a lead because he says it sets up on so much. I originally had that weird Celebi set I posted in the strategy section on the team paired with a Tyranitar. The whole idea of the team was to support a DD Tar sweep... Over time, though, T-Tar almost never did anything although I did win a lot, but it was my other Pokémon that got the job done.

I had Forretress / Celebi / T-Tar / Heatran / Rotom / Kingdra on the team originally, but ever since T-Tar started sucking and my Celebi set was rather meh, I changed the team a bit. After looking over weaknesses and resistances etc... I changed T-Tar to a SpD Rest-Talk Roar variant to abuse Forretress' spikes, and Celebi was changed to a bulkier set. Rotom with a Choice Scarf was just too frail, so I changed it to a Sub-Pain Split-Thunderbolt-Will-O-Wisp set (amazing set actually, I don't get why it isn't on site) and I changed Kingdra to Vaporeon because Kingdra's bulk wasn't enough to take on things like Heatran and Infernape with no form of recovery outside of Rest. T-Tar ended up doing nothing, again, and SS hurt my team severely (Rotom could only make 3 subs at full HP b/c SS acts before leftovers does, and Vaporeon's walling capabilities were not as great with essentially no leftovers), and I desperately needed a Dragon resistance among some other resistances. I ended up with Forretress / Jirachi / Celebi / Heatran / Rotom / Vaporeon: The final team

This is where I need to ask you something, my team is pretty similar to the guy's team up ^there^ with 5/6 Pokémon being the same. Now, I did arrive at the final party mostly by myself (Forretress and Jirachi I stole, but even Jirachi has a slightly different move set and EVs), with Heatran having a different EV spread and Rotom a completely different set. I also used his Vaporeon move set and EVs, but I had the idea to use Vaporeon myself just out of common sense of needing a Heatran, Infernape etc... counter. Would you say that I "stole" his team? I didn't copy and paste his team into Shoddy, I came up with the end product myself, but I did more or less look to his team for guidance sometimes... What do you think?

PS: Sorry for this extremely long message haha
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PostSubject: Re: Prepare for long reading...   Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:56 am

That would all depend on your point of view...

If you had looked at his team with the full intention of taking it, yeah that would be copying

But the way I see(read) it, is that you didn't look at his team to copy it, you looked at it for ideas which makes sense. So what if they are similar, if it works it works.
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PostSubject: Re: Prepare for long reading...   Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:03 pm

Evil Oogie wrote:
That would all depend on your point of view...

If you had looked at his team with the full intention of taking it, yeah that would be copying

But the way I see(read) it, is that you didn't look at his team to copy it, you looked at it for ideas which makes sense. So what if they are similar, if it works it works.

That's mostly what I thought... I'm not the kind of person to steal a team, but every time I decided that Pokémon A would fit well in the team, it was in his team too haha
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