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CaseyR
Posts : 567 UT points : 6162 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 28 Location : Your mother. ...Yeah, I went there.
| Subject: RM Furret! Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:38 pm | |
| I don't know if this set has already been made or not, so if it has, tell me.
Furret @Choice Scarf Keen Eye (why not? Run Away is useless) Jolly 252Spe / 128Atk / 128HP -Super Fang -Sucker Punch -Body Slam / Return / U-turn / Toxic -Trick
Choice Scarf for mega speed, so it can use Trick right off the bat. Trick to lock Pokemon into set up moves. Super Fang to cut the opponent's HP in half (I mean, how is that not helpful?). Sucker Punch for a possible revenge kill and for ghosts. Stuck on Body Slam, Return, U-turn, and Toxic. With Body Sam, I could go for parahax and STAB. With Return, I can have maximum STAB power. With U-turn, I could switch into something better. And finally, Toxic can be immediatly set up on walls. Well, what do you guys think? And I know that TrickScarf is used with like all Furrets, so I know that's not original. | |
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Greene
Posts : 340 UT points : 7655 Join date : 2009-06-06 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: RM Furret! Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:44 pm | |
| - CaseyR wrote:
- I don't know if this set has already been made or not, so if it has, tell me.
Furret @Choice Scarf Keen Eye (why not? Run Away is useless) Jolly 252Spe / 128Atk / 128HP -Super Fang -Sucker Punch -Body Slam / Return / U-turn / Toxic -Trick
Choice Scarf for mega speed, so it can use Trick right off the bat. Trick to lock Pokemon into set up moves. Super Fang to cut the opponent's HP in half (I mean, how is that not helpful?). Sucker Punch for a possible revenge kill and for ghosts. Stuck on Body Slam, Return, U-turn, and Toxic. With Body Sam, I could go for parahax and STAB. With Return, I can have maximum STAB power. With U-turn, I could switch into something better. And finally, Toxic can be immediatly set up on walls. Well, what do you guys think? And I know that TrickScarf is used with like all Furrets, so I know that's not original. Very similar to Dustbuster TKN's Furret, so I would say it should work out. The moves looks fine, go with Body Slam for STAB + parahax chance. What is the reasoning behind the EV's though (aside from Speed which is obvious)??? | |
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CaseyR
Posts : 567 UT points : 6162 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 28 Location : Your mother. ...Yeah, I went there.
| Subject: Re: RM Furret! Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:49 pm | |
| I wanted more HP. Should I put the HP EVs into attack and put the last four into HP? | |
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Gastrotress
Posts : 155 UT points : 6060 Join date : 2009-07-21
| Subject: Re: RM Furret! Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:57 pm | |
| i dunno about this... seems like setup fodder for ghosts if it has lost its scarf (or if it's locked on super fang)... mismagius will say hi and start NP or CM while rotom will also say hi and get a free turn to thunder wave, will-o-wisp, or charge beam... For this I suggest aqua tail in the last slot (or in place of sucker punch) | |
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saxman1324
Posts : 531 UT points : 6263 Join date : 2009-11-02 Age : 30 Location : Here... There... And Everywhere
| Subject: Re: RM Furret! Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:09 am | |
| I agree with gastrotress that aqua tail should be included but I would actually switch it with super fang. I know this means that common walls have nothing to fear but if you could get the trick off one them giving them the scarf (or something else taken by your opponent) you could ruin they're plan to be an effective wall. However I hate super fang users so I would suggest getting a second opinion on what I said | |
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Shnoogle
Posts : 1710 UT points : 7887 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 30 Location : Scranton
| Subject: Re: RM Furret! Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:24 pm | |
| well, one of the whole reasons people like to use this guy is super fang... I think it should be included
Aqua tail may seem nice in theory. But it can only manage 41% max to even min HP min Def Mismagius with an aqua tail... And if it did get up a calm mind, NP, or Sub before you attacked it... bye bye furret
sucker punch has more utility | |
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Gastrotress
Posts : 155 UT points : 6060 Join date : 2009-07-21
| Subject: Re: RM Furret! Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:49 pm | |
| - Shnoogle wrote:
- well, one of the whole reasons people like to use this guy is super fang... I think it should be included
Aqua tail may seem nice in theory. But it can only manage 41% max to even min HP min Def Mismagius with an aqua tail... And if it did get up a calm mind, NP, or Sub before you attacked it... bye bye furret
sucker punch has more utility Most will set up subs before.... this is how it might go (assuming it lost its scarf and doesn't miss, 100% mismagius; also who is stupid enough to send in a furret on a mismagius that has already set up? That's just asking, "sweep me!") Mismagius used Substitute! Mismagius lost 25% of its health. Furret used Aqua Tail! The substitute faded. Mismagius used Nasty Plot. Mismagius's special attack was raised 2 stages. Furret used Aqua Tail. Mismagius lost 35% of its health. Furret used Sucker Punch! Mismagius lost 40% of its health. Mismagius fainted. | |
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CaseyR
Posts : 567 UT points : 6162 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 28 Location : Your mother. ...Yeah, I went there.
| Subject: Re: RM Furret! Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:09 pm | |
| The problem with that is Aqua Tail misses alot. | |
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Greene
Posts : 340 UT points : 7655 Join date : 2009-06-06 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: RM Furret! Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:06 am | |
| - Gastrotress wrote:
- Shnoogle wrote:
- well, one of the whole reasons people like to use this guy is super fang... I think it should be included
Aqua tail may seem nice in theory. But it can only manage 41% max to even min HP min Def Mismagius with an aqua tail... And if it did get up a calm mind, NP, or Sub before you attacked it... bye bye furret
sucker punch has more utility Most will set up subs before.... this is how it might go (assuming it lost its scarf and doesn't miss, 100% mismagius; also who is stupid enough to send in a furret on a mismagius that has already set up? That's just asking, "sweep me!")
Mismagius used Substitute! Mismagius lost 25% of its health. Furret used Aqua Tail! The substitute faded. Mismagius used Nasty Plot. Mismagius's special attack was raised 2 stages. Furret used Aqua Tail. Mismagius lost 35% of its health. Furret used Sucker Punch! Mismagius lost 40% of its health. Mismagius fainted. So what??? Every Pokemon set has a counter, if a ghost like Mismagius comes in who wants to set up just switch out the Furret and send in something that scares the Mismagius out. Simple as. | |
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