RM Bulk Up Floatzel

Floatzel - Jolly
Leftovers
6 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spe
Bulk Up
Brick Break
Waterfall
Ice Punch

Not sure about the nature, EV's, or moves so i really need some help! The idea is to come into something that likes to take time set up or i can scare away (although the second one is less likely) or even something that depends on status a lot (like a paraflinch togekiss). then set up the sub to start getting some Bulk Ups.

the real problem is deciding the stats it needs. an adamant floatzel has the ability to do more damage faster, and still has decent speed. however, its out speeded by some problem pokemon, such as Gengar. with a jolly nature, he can outspeed standard gengars but cant even 2HKO a Dragonite with Ice Punch.

Please comment! Thx for reading!

saxman1324 wrote:

Floatzel - Adamant/Jolly
Leftovers
6 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spe if Adamant. 42 HP, 252 Atk, 216 Spe if Jolly
Bulk Up
Substitute
Waterfall
Ice Punch

Not sure about the nature, EV's, or moves so i really need some help! The idea is to come into something that likes to take time set up or i can scare away (although the second one is less likely) or even something that depends on status a lot (like a paraflinch togekiss). then set up the sub to start getting some Bulk Ups.

the real problem is deciding the stats it needs. an adamant floatzel has the ability to do more damage faster, and still has decent speed. however, its out speeded by some problem pokemon, such as Gengar. with a jolly nature, he can outspeed standard gengars but cant even 2HKO a Dragonite with Ice Punch.

Please comment! Thx for reading!

What damage calc are you running exactly??? Jolly Floatzel with max attack EV's always OHKO's all offensive Dragonite (most common) and 2HKO's defensive Dragonite (less common) with Ice Punch. Go with the Jolly set and max out attack AND speed; those HP EV's are wasted on Floatzel considering my next suggestion. You should probably drop Substitute to get more coverage. Water is a good type for forcing switches, so you'll probably get off your Bulk Up anyway. Instead I would suggest most likely Brick Break for Empoleon and other waters.

Greene wrote:

saxman1324 wrote:

Floatzel - Adamant/Jolly
Leftovers
6 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spe if Adamant. 42 HP, 252 Atk, 216 Spe if Jolly
Bulk Up
Substitute
Waterfall
Ice Punch

Not sure about the nature, EV's, or moves so i really need some help! The idea is to come into something that likes to take time set up or i can scare away (although the second one is less likely) or even something that depends on status a lot (like a paraflinch togekiss). then set up the sub to start getting some Bulk Ups.

the real problem is deciding the stats it needs. an adamant floatzel has the ability to do more damage faster, and still has decent speed. however, its out speeded by some problem pokemon, such as Gengar. with a jolly nature, he can outspeed standard gengars but cant even 2HKO a Dragonite with Ice Punch.

Please comment! Thx for reading!

What damage calc are you running exactly??? Jolly Floatzel with max attack EV's always OHKO's all offensive Dragonite (most common) and 2HKO's defensive Dragonite (less common) with Ice Punch. Go with the Jolly set and max out attack AND speed; those HP EV's are wasted on Floatzel considering my next suggestion. You should probably drop Substitute to get more coverage. Water is a good type for forcing switches, so you'll probably get off your Bulk Up anyway. Instead I would suggest most likely Brick Break for Empoleon and other waters.

I've been trying out Smogon's new damage calculator and obviously its not doing me much help... I think i'll take your advice so it will be more like a set up and sweep, and less of a stalled sweep, and having a speed counter to Empoleon would do most of my teams wonders. k case closed

Smogons calculator assumes smogon sets in the calculations, so are not accurate unless you are comparing carbon smogon sets with 31 IV's across the board.

O great point. I'll keep that in mind thx

Pretty standard IMO. Exact same as smogon.