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ARandomBoy
Posts : 143 UT points : 5656 Join date : 2009-11-03 Age : 30 Location : Unknown.
| Subject: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:48 pm | |
| Lapras...
Lapras@Leftovers 160 HP / 96 ATK / 252 SpD [Smogon EVs] Careful Shell Armor / Water Absorb
-Curse -Body Slam -Confuse Ray -Waterfall
You may recall me saying, "HP > defenses". This is generally true. However, Lapras has a quite massive (though little compared to Blissey..) 130 base HP stat, meaning it doesn't need a whole lot of HP EVs in order to be effective. Plus, these are Smogon EVs, and they generally have common sense (except when they put Cress into UU, but that's another story). Either ability is of use here. Shell Armor helps block random critical hits they may ruin your Curse parade, while Water Absorb gives you a fully immunity to Water-type attacks.
Now that the top part is done, it's time to get into the crazy and complicated, yet so awesome, moveset. Curse boosts my DEF and ATK to respectable levels, making Lapras hard to take down from both sides of the spectrum while making it more powerful ALL at the cost of -1 speed. Body Slam will [hopefully] get me some parahax. Then, assuming I am faster, I will Confuse Ray to form the ever-annoying ParaFusion combo. And finally, Waterfall is there. For three important reasons, actually. One is for basic STAB. Two is to compliment Body Slam in coverage, forming the Water-Normal combo resisted only Shedinja, Empoleon, Dialga, and Giratina. And finally, it has a 20% flinch rate to further annoy the opponent, who, assuming they stay in, is struggling to attack me. | |
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Shnoogle
Posts : 1710 UT points : 7722 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 29 Location : Scranton
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:51 pm | |
| looks nice! Not much i can say to improve it i would take water absorb though for some healing later in the battle | |
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nikodem123asdf
Posts : 274 UT points : 5728 Join date : 2009-10-12 Age : 32 Location : Poland
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:05 am | |
| - Shnoogle wrote:
- looks nice!
Not much i can say to improve it i would take water absorb though for some healing later in the battle no shell armor blocks critical hits this is one of the best possible abilities if you are increasing your defence and since he is increasing his stats he will not wont to swich so often so possibility of getting hp restored by water moves while you are staying in is preety low however water absorb gives you sometimes save swiches i dont know | |
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damien
Posts : 2 UT points : 5390 Join date : 2009-08-30
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:13 am | |
| i would say that shell armour is better for this amaing moveset for lapras | |
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Greene
Posts : 340 UT points : 7490 Join date : 2009-06-06 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:35 am | |
| Hmm let's see protect against something that has a 10% of happening, or be immune to and healed by water attacks meaning free switch ins for set up, more healing, and easier to wall certain Pokemon. Guys c'mon, there's no contest. | |
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Daiko
Posts : 1219 UT points : 6842 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30 Location : In a Galaxy far, far away =D
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:49 am | |
| Yup, Greene said it.. Shell Armour is the way to go ( Just Kidding) Yeah, Water Absorb is the ability that Lapras will need for all the reasons Greene stated! | |
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SebaSneakers
Posts : 362 UT points : 5773 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 30 Location : Antwerp, Belgium
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:54 pm | |
| this may be a little of topic
does water absorb also heal you when you are hit by a surf from your team ?
im not sure about this one | |
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Greene
Posts : 340 UT points : 7490 Join date : 2009-06-06 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:59 pm | |
| - SebaSneakers wrote:
- this may be a little of topic
does water absorb also heal you when you are hit by a surf from your team ?
im not sure about this one Yup, makes for epic doubles combos. Also technically not off-topic, just don't go much further down that path. | |
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Shnoogle
Posts : 1710 UT points : 7722 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 29 Location : Scranton
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:23 pm | |
| Yay greene and I agree on something for once lol Also, with water absorb you can have teamates weak to water to draw in surfs or waterfalls and heal lapras up. Also u would be surprised as to how many people will just hit you with water attacks while u are in battle and you get even more healing. (basically some people are stupid haha) | |
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Greene
Posts : 340 UT points : 7490 Join date : 2009-06-06 Location : Ireland
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Shnoogle
Posts : 1710 UT points : 7722 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 29 Location : Scranton
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:29 pm | |
| It seems every time one of us posts something, the other is there to have an opposite opinion or prove them wrong. See? We aren't even agreeing on this haha | |
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saxman1324
Posts : 531 UT points : 6098 Join date : 2009-11-02 Age : 30 Location : Here... There... And Everywhere
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:19 pm | |
| lol you guys are silly just be sure that if you paralyze the opponent that you dont over curse and give up the chance to flinch them. that will just take knowledge of speed stats, but other than that looking good | |
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Gastrotress
Posts : 155 UT points : 5895 Join date : 2009-07-21
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:00 pm | |
| Needs moar ice stab.. namely ice shard; switch it with confuse ray imo | |
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relloz6
Posts : 177 UT points : 5461 Join date : 2009-12-13 Age : 26 Location : world hoping WOOT!! (right now I'm in futo)
| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:08 pm | |
| I actually think this could work even better if it's in a trick room team but other than that I think this set is pretty good . | |
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ARandomBoy
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| Subject: Re: Para-Curse-Fusion-Flinch? Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:10 pm | |
| - Gastrotress wrote:
- Needs moar ice stab.. namely ice shard; switch it with confuse ray imo
Ditching Confuse Ray defeats half the set, and Ice Shard has little use when you have Body Slam's para support. | |
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