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+5saxman1324 nikodem123asdf Mub gLugia Daiko 9 posters |
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Daiko
Posts : 1219 UT points : 6838 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30 Location : In a Galaxy far, far away =D
| Subject: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:49 am | |
| Sunflora!!!
This awesome Pokemon is ignored by almost everyone because of Sunkern's pathetic base stats and Sunflora's pretty poor Move Pool
Well... I know some of you won't have even realised Sunflora's 105 Base Sp.Att Stat! Yeah, it is as slow as a Steelix, hmmm if only there was a way to use that pathetic speed to your advantage.. Oh wait, Trick Room!
Yeah, This is gonna be a Trick Room Sunflora! (Not carrying Trick Room, but in a team that utilizes Trick Room)
Sunflora (M) @ Choice Specs Ability: Chlorophyll EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SAtk Quiet nature (+SAtk, -Spd) - Earth Power - Leaf Storm - Energy Ball - Hidden Power [Water]
Here it is
With the given EV's, Specs and the 1 missing IV in Sp.Att (Which had to go so I could get HP Water) it hit 507 Sp.Att!!! Now... If anyone can run up a few Damage Calcs for some NU/UU Pokemon that this set will most likely face, it will probably show this thing doing either a crapload of damage or quite a lot at least!
Earth Power and Hidden Power Water effectively take out nearly all the counters this set is going to face. My only True Problem is Flying types since I doubt many Fire Types can take an Earth Power or HP Water from this.
Leaf Storm for when I just need to destroy most of someone's HP and Energy Ball for when I can't risk the Sp.Attack drops!
Please don't say things like, Sunflora sucks.. Use so and so.... Or Um... Have you even checked how bad this Pokemon is.
Try to have some constructive critisicm please!
(This set is not for novelty, but actually for a Trick Room team I am making of Pokemon that just get shunted by everyone else!) | |
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gLugia
Posts : 192 UT points : 5618 Join date : 2009-08-12 Age : 33 Location : In a cold dark place, with lots of food
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:38 am | |
| Everything about this Sunflora is good. The only thing I would suggest you change is Sunflora ability. Since you're using this Sunflora in a Trick Room team, change the ability from Chlorophyll to Solar Power, since you don't want to give it a Speed boost. And as an added bonus, if you have Sunny Day up, Sunflora could wreak more havoc! EDIT: I just checked. Sunflora doesn't get Earth Power, so I'd suggest you replace it with Sludge Bomb | |
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Daiko
Posts : 1219 UT points : 6838 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30 Location : In a Galaxy far, far away =D
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:53 am | |
| - gLugia wrote:
EDIT: I just checked. Sunflora doesn't get Earth Power, so I'd suggest you replace it with Sludge Bomb Shoddy seems to think it does! As does Smogon while I am talking about that I couldn't tell ya anymore Oh, and none of my Pokemon carry Sunny Day, but I see your point. I'll change the ability I am looking for! Thanks | |
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gLugia
Posts : 192 UT points : 5618 Join date : 2009-08-12 Age : 33 Location : In a cold dark place, with lots of food
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:58 am | |
| - Daiko wrote:
- gLugia wrote:
EDIT: I just checked. Sunflora doesn't get Earth Power, so I'd suggest you replace it with Sludge Bomb Shoddy seems to think it does!
As does Smogon while I am talking about that I checked on Serebii and they said it didn't. Now I'm curious... | |
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Daiko
Posts : 1219 UT points : 6838 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30 Location : In a Galaxy far, far away =D
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:59 am | |
| Yeah, it's not often that Serebii misses something like that, but the same can be said about Smogon!
Bulbapedia, misses quite a lot these days though! | |
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gLugia
Posts : 192 UT points : 5618 Join date : 2009-08-12 Age : 33 Location : In a cold dark place, with lots of food
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:02 am | |
| I just went to the Move Tutor place with my Sunflora on my Platinum, and it turns out that Sunflora can't learn Earth Power.
Shoddy and Smogon lied to you! | |
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Daiko
Posts : 1219 UT points : 6838 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30 Location : In a Galaxy far, far away =D
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:16 am | |
| *Throws Dynamite at Shoddy* That sucks (Are you sure it isn't HG/SS Exclusive?) | |
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gLugia
Posts : 192 UT points : 5618 Join date : 2009-08-12 Age : 33 Location : In a cold dark place, with lots of food
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:26 am | |
| Serebii didn't say, but that doesn't mean its not true, so I'm not 100% sure. All I know is that one of sites isn't correct. But which one... | |
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Mub
Posts : 120 UT points : 5555 Join date : 2009-10-19 Age : 27 Location : In my house
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:47 am | |
| I checked marriland and apparently sunflora cannot learn earth power | |
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Daiko
Posts : 1219 UT points : 6838 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30 Location : In a Galaxy far, far away =D
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:08 am | |
| I'll leave it for now. Though I will change it when we manage to get somewhere | |
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nikodem123asdf
Posts : 274 UT points : 5724 Join date : 2009-10-12 Age : 32 Location : Poland
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:13 am | |
| it is kinda tricky sunflora CAN learn erth power but ONLY from move torutor in HG/SS and not platinum althrought they bolth can teach that move only the one in HG/SS has enought skill to teach it to sunflora | |
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Daiko
Posts : 1219 UT points : 6838 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30 Location : In a Galaxy far, far away =D
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:26 am | |
| - nikodem123asdf wrote:
- it is kinda tricky sunflora CAN learn erth power but ONLY from move torutor in HG/SS and not platinum althrought they bolth can teach that move only the one in HG/SS has enought skill to teach it to sunflora
Thank you! I knew it woulda been a HG/SS thing.. | |
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gLugia
Posts : 192 UT points : 5618 Join date : 2009-08-12 Age : 33 Location : In a cold dark place, with lots of food
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:37 am | |
| - nikodem123asdf wrote:
- it is kinda tricky sunflora CAN learn erth power but ONLY from move torutor in HG/SS and not platinum althrought they bolth can teach that move only the one in HG/SS has enought skill to teach it to sunflora
Sites need to be more specific with this kind of stuff, otherwise the whole Pokemon world would go into chaos... | |
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Daiko
Posts : 1219 UT points : 6838 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30 Location : In a Galaxy far, far away =D
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:45 am | |
| Yey for Chaos and boo for only one person actually rating this set... | |
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saxman1324
Posts : 531 UT points : 6094 Join date : 2009-11-02 Age : 30 Location : Here... There... And Everywhere
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:16 pm | |
| - Daiko wrote:
- Yey for Chaos and boo for only one person actually rating this set...
lol i'll rate it! i saw that your changing the ability in case of sunny day, and Solar Power could actually be utilized to boost your power even more. EV's are good, and so is the moveset. cant really say much more than that, all i say is that sunflora actually has good options (sunkern is one of my fav nfe's) and they both learn SD, so if you needed a physical attacker he could SD on the turn that trick room is activated with a sash (not recommending changing, just kinda educating about an awesome sunflower ) pm me sometime and ill help you test your TR team | |
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iEaturCake
Posts : 31 UT points : 5287 Join date : 2010-01-10 Age : 27 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:58 pm | |
| I think its great. but the one thing I have a problem w/ (it isn't your team) but... I keep hearing these "words" a lot and would like to know what they mean. WHAT IS THIS NU AND UU U SPEAK OF? please don't be mean. | |
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Darkravenn12
Posts : 433 UT points : 6567 Join date : 2009-05-04 Location : underworld
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:01 pm | |
| - iEaturCake wrote:
- I think its great.
but the one thing I have a problem w/ (it isn't your team) but... I keep hearing these "words" a lot and would like to know what they mean. WHAT IS THIS NU AND UU U SPEAK OF? please don't be mean. they are tiers there's 6 tiers, ubers, overused, borderline, underused, neverused, and nfe this is from order of strongest to weakest u can find out about them from here: http://www.smogon.com/ these are the tiers that most people follow | |
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Greene
Posts : 340 UT points : 7486 Join date : 2009-06-06 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:07 pm | |
| And now that that has been answered please do not continue the conversation. | |
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SebaSneakers
Posts : 362 UT points : 5769 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 30 Location : Antwerp, Belgium
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:28 am | |
| does this sunflora work i might wahnt one 2 | |
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Daiko
Posts : 1219 UT points : 6838 Join date : 2009-10-27 Age : 30 Location : In a Galaxy far, far away =D
| Subject: Re: Revenge of the Flower! Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:35 am | |
| One, I couldn't tell you...
I haven't even tested this set... I am just getting people's opinion on it! | |
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