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PostSubject: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:34 am

I decided to be original and have a physical Venusaur.
Here are it's stats:
EVs: 255 HP, 255 Attack (which is nice, it has an adamant nature on top of an attack-raising characteristic)
Moveset:
Seed Bomb
Earthquake
Sleep Powder
Synthesis.

Testing this out on PBR against some OU's and Ubers, it works quite well.
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:36 am

I hope you realize if you throw Swords Dance over Synthesis you have a Smogon set, except with different EVs. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:38 am

ARandomBoy wrote:
I hope you realize if you throw Swords Dance over Synthesis you have a Smogon set, except with different EVs. Neutral

yeah
not to mention sd is better than synthesis for sheer power
and btw
never use 255, 255
if you're gonna max out stats, do 252, 252, 6
as 255, 255 loses a stat point


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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:38 am

ScizzorTrainer wrote:
I decided to be original and have a physical Venusaur.
Here are it's stats:
EVs: 255 HP, 255 Attack (which is nice, it has an adamant nature on top of an attack-raising characteristic)
Moveset:
Seed Bomb
Earthquake
Sleep Powder
Synthesis.

Testing this out on PBR against some OU's and Ubers, it works quite well.


You might wanna be patient for that last HP EV. It's a little bit of a pain in the arse to count ev's but it's not too bad.

Anyways may i suggest power whip if you can get it? If you can't seeb bomb is okay but inferior. This is the standard venusaur actually.
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:39 am

I never thought of power whip...
Thanks for the insight.
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:40 am

You need to have swords dance over synthesis. Sleep powder, the SD up and maybe go for a sweep.

Iv used one like this to great success with swords dance over synthesis as the only move change. I ran jolly nature with 252 speed EVs and 4 Def EVs.

You want 252HP, 252 attack, 4 speed. You can have a max of 255 EVs in one stat, yes, but that # isn't divisible by four so you are losing a stat point in another stat. 4 sleed evs lets you outrun 0 speed milotic (most common) so you can sleep powder or seed bomb before you get blasted by an ice beam or hypnosis
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:42 am

Try not to max out EVs to the full extent of 255, use 252 instead. If you want you could look at the guide Greene made in the Game Mechanics section on EVs, if you are having trouble with them.
Just trying to help, so don't take that the wrong way.

Give it a Black Sludge to hold, or Leftovers if you don't have Black Sludge. Like everyone else said, give it Power Whip over Seed Bomb.

EDIT*
Shnoogle beat me to the post. Razz


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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:45 am

CaseyR wrote:
Try not to max out EVs to the full extent of 255, use 252 instead. If you want you could look at the guide Greene made in the Game Mechanics section on EVs, if you are having trouble with them.
Just trying to help, so don't take that the wrong way.

I like everything else on the set.

EDIT*
Shnoogle beat me to the post. Razz


Just wondering, why do you always right that? Lol it makes me chuckle all the time
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:47 am

Thanks guys.
But I should keep SP, right?
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:48 am

ScizzorTrainer wrote:
Thanks guys.
But I should keep SP, right?

yeah definitely
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:48 am

Shnoogle wrote:
CaseyR wrote:
Try not to max out EVs to the full extent of 255, use 252 instead. If you want you could look at the guide Greene made in the Game Mechanics section on EVs, if you are having trouble with them.
Just trying to help, so don't take that the wrong way.

I like everything else on the set.

EDIT*
Shnoogle beat me to the post. Razz


Just wondering, why do you always right that? Lol it makes me chuckle all the time

Because I don't want them to think I'm calling them stupid or something. I don't want to start a flame war or something.
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:49 am

ScizzorTrainer wrote:
Thanks guys.
But I should keep SP, right?


Sleep powder and leech seed are its greatest assests (as well as its great speed and defenses).

BTW forgot to mention this is honchkrow bait without sludge bomb, although this is clearly physical so...
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:57 am

Gastrotress wrote:
ScizzorTrainer wrote:
Thanks guys.
But I should keep SP, right?


Sleep powder and leech seed are its greatest assests (as well as its great speed and defenses).

BTW forgot to mention this is honchkrow bait without sludge bomb, although this is clearly physical so...

but honchkrow's bl now
so unless he's using it in ou he should be fine
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PostSubject: Re: My Venusaur set: Opinions?   Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:01 am

lol okay casey...
I just find it funny for some reason. I have an odd sense of humor ;P

Yeah im glad honchy is BL Smile
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