Rayquaza Sweeper

So here's this Rayquaza I'm training, strictly for PBR:

Rayquaza@Choice Specs
Nature: Timid
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 SpAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
Moveset:
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast/Flamethrower/Overheat
-Dragon Pulse
-Surf/Thunderbolt Earth Power

So yeah, almost looks like ChoiceMence, minus the Hydro Pump. So I have Draco Meteor for the one-off hit, and then switch. I have a choice for a Fire-type move here. Consistency, High-risk high-return, or overwhelming power with a power drop. Then Dragon Pulse for a consistent STAB move. Then my last choice:

Surf to cover Rock/Ground/Fire-type who resist any of the other attacks.
Thunderbolt for those pesky fliers, bulky Water-type, and Gyarados.

Earth Power is to hit Dialga and Heatran, which is the main reason for it.

Feedback?

Lookin pretty sweet, but Rock, Ground, and Fire pokemon don't resist dragon moves... But Surf does have the best coverage alongside Dragon moves, so that is the best option, I would say. Especially since locking yourself into a Thunderbolt isn't the best idea.

Fire Blast is the best option in the second slot. 2 moves with -2 Sp. Attack drawbacks is too much, and Flamethrower lacks the necessary power sometimes to do enough damage to the next pokemon that comes in.

I was actually trying to refer to Steelix, Aggron, and Probopass, but I get what you mean. And thanks for the ideas. I appreciate it.

Say, what's a good set for a Suicune with a Calm nature?

Sweetness wrote:

I was actually trying to refer to Steelix, Aggron, and Probopass, but I get what you mean. And thanks for the ideas. I appreciate it.

Say, what's a good set for a Suicune with a Calm nature?

Suicune @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
240 HP, 244 Def, 24 Speed
Pressure
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Roar/Roar
~Calm Mind/Sleep Talk

Calm mind shuffle is the first set or you can go with a standard restalker set.
The EVs max Def, as most Suicune should do, and the HP gives you a leftovers threshold. If you have a 31 Speed IV, the 24 Speed IVs allow you to outspeed 8 Speed metagross and 0 Speed Rotom-A

i dont know uber's very well, but i do know that Rayquaza is pretty much only respected for its Attack. i cant see that doing amazingly well no offense. there is not much room for originality in ubers

Saxman, you do realize Rayquaza has the same Base Attack and Base SpAttack right? Not only that, but he has a movepool that makes Salamence feel like Entie

L wrote:

Saxman, you do realize Rayquaza has the same Base Attack and Base SpAttack right? Not only that, but he has a movepool that makes Salamence feel like Entie

L=new herp derp Not really experienced in Ubers but Shnoogle's advice seems reasonable...I GUESS lol

Neku wrote:

L wrote:

Saxman, you do realize Rayquaza has the same Base Attack and Base SpAttack right? Not only that, but he has a movepool that makes Salamence feel like Entie

L=new herp derp Not really experienced in Ubers but Shnoogle's advice seems reasonable...I GUESS lol

Lol thanks I GUESS

I have experience in every tier except NU (which I would actually like to start playing) so I think I should give good strategy advice lol

L wrote:

Saxman, you do realize Rayquaza has the same Base Attack and Base SpAttack right? Not only that, but he has a movepool that makes Salamence feel like Entie

to tell you the truth i had absolutely no idea, but i do know that SD sweepers are very common and very hard to stop. i dont think a Specs'd draco meteor will OHKO a Lugia, and the weakening in power will give it the time to set up a Light Screen (once again, these are the only sets i know, so dont jump down my throat). a damage calc might need to used ^^

Neku wrote:

L wrote:

Saxman, you do realize Rayquaza has the same Base Attack and Base SpAttack right? Not only that, but he has a movepool that makes Salamence feel like Entie

L=new herp derp Not really experienced in Ubers but Shnoogle's advice seems reasonable...I GUESS lol

OH YEA i miss that guy he was always so.....idk not original i think smogon was his home

saxman1324 wrote:

L wrote:

Saxman, you do realize Rayquaza has the same Base Attack and Base SpAttack right? Not only that, but he has a movepool that makes Salamence feel like Entie

to tell you the truth i had absolutely no idea, but i do know that SD sweepers are very common and very hard to stop. i dont think a Specs'd draco meteor will OHKO a Lugia, and the weakening in power will give it the time to set up a Light Screen (once again, these are the only sets i know, so dont jump down my throat). a damage calc might need to used ^^

On standard 416 HP, 344 Sp. Def Lugia (252/0) a Timid, Max Special Attack, Choice Specs Rayquaza's Draco Meteor does 62.98%-74.28% damage. Meaning an easy 2HKO after SR. Lugia has to switch into your 1st Draco Meteor if you don't want to be owned by ice beam, though. However, a -4 Draco Meteor is just bait for a lot of set up pokemon in Ubers, like Calm Mind Kyogre, Swords Dance Scizor, Dragon Dance T-Tar etc...

I could go for a mixed DD Rayquaza with this set:

Rayquaza@Leftovers/Life Orb/Lum Berry
Nature: Timid
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 SpAtk, 4 Atk
Moveset:
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Surf
-Fire Blast

What about this?

Timmy wrote:

Sweetness wrote:

I could go for a mixed DD Rayquaza with this set:

Rayquaza@Leftovers/Life Orb/Lum Berry
Nature: Timid
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 SpAtk, 4 Atk HP
Moveset:
-Dragon Dance/Calm Mind(If it can learn it not gonna bother looking up)
-Dragon Claw/ Thunderbolt/Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
-Surf
-Fire Blast/Flamethrower

What about this?

With this your mostly giving him special attack and no attack...the Dragon Claw wont do much even with the DD up.

The special sweeper set was my original set. And no it can't learn Calm Mind.

Timmy wrote:

Shnoogle wrote:

Sweetness wrote:

I was actually trying to refer to Steelix, Aggron, and Probopass, but I get what you mean. And thanks for the ideas. I appreciate it.

Say, what's a good set for a Suicune with a Calm nature?

Suicune @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
240 HP, 244 Def, 24 Speed
Pressure
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Roar/Roar
~Calm Mind/Sleep Talk

Calm mind shuffle is the first set or you can go with a standard restalker set.
The EVs max Def, as most Suicune should do, and the HP gives you a leftovers threshold. If you have a 31 Speed IV, the 24 Speed IVs allow you to outspeed 8 Speed metagross and 0 Speed Rotom-A

By the way what is the difference between the indigo Roar and the red Roar?

lol that should be the move rest
Sorry about that, I was trying to show to use Roar paired with CM, and the other two together, but it failed a bit :/