The Uuttitan Community Forums
 
HomeRegisterLog in

Share | 
 

 Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
cdplayar

avatar

Posts : 1468
UT points : 5453
Join date : 2009-08-10
Age : 21
Location : Ontario, Canada!

PostSubject: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:42 pm

Let's talk about the Mosque on ground zero.
I think the mindset here is "OMG TURBAN! TERRORIST! HALPHALPHALP PL0X!"
Why would people feel threatened? They have a right to express their religious beliefs and practices. It's not the terrorist's Mosque, it's a Minority's place of worship. It's liek they think they'll bomb the whole city or something! It's liek saying not to let German people go to the European countris who were part of WWII!
Thought && opinions?
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/cdplayar
Pialga93

avatar

Posts : 717
UT points : 3287
Join date : 2009-11-02
Age : 24
Location : Illinois

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:00 pm

We have the right to express freedom of religion and right to property, the constitution is the highest law of our country. that's my opinion of it.
Back to top Go down
Gir

avatar

Posts : 534
UT points : 3783
Join date : 2010-03-08
Age : 23

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:03 pm

Want a reason? People are idiots. For most Americans, the moment anyone different than them puts a feet out of their houses, they give up the right to be left alone, and, as the roaches they are, act trying to impress a bunch of people they`ll never see in their lifetimes thinking that "OMG Im so Pr0, I am racist to a guy I dont even know lolololololololollololololo"...

_________________


Dan hitted the nail on how Gen V metagame is gonna be:
Spoiler:
 
Back to top Go down
Neku

avatar

Posts : 248
UT points : 3218
Join date : 2009-11-14
Age : 21
Location : Whoville

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:04 pm

I am torn on this issue to be honest. I can't decide whether it is right for them to put it down or not, and don't flame me let me tell you both sides of the spectrum so that you are not completely oblivious to the issue.

For those living under a rock there has been a proposal to place a Mosque NEAR the site of Ground Zero, not on Ground Zero. There has been much trouble with this has muslims and supporters of the mosque going down feel that the people against the mosque are stereotyping and being basically douchebags.

The people who disagree with the mosque going down don't want it going near ground zero out of respect of 9/11 and some may just be douchebags who just don't want a mosque going down anywhere.

So that's both sides. To be honest I can see both sides points. It's not like it's on Ground Zero, think about all the underground prostitution joints near ground zero and what not, is a place of worship any better than a prostitution joint? I'd hope so. However the people who disagree just want Ground Zero to not have a mosque near it out of respect, but it wasn't the everyday muslim that participated in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. I don't see why they can't simply put the mosque elsewhere, surely muslims and supporters must understand and not be completely ignorant.

It's tough tbh.
Back to top Go down
cdplayar

avatar

Posts : 1468
UT points : 5453
Join date : 2009-08-10
Age : 21
Location : Ontario, Canada!

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:08 pm

Neku wrote:
I am torn on this issue to be honest. I can't decide whether it is right for them to put it down or not, and don't flame me let me tell you both sides of the spectrum so that you are not completely oblivious to the issue.

For those living under a rock there has been a proposal to place a Mosque NEAR the site of Ground Zero, not on Ground Zero. There has been much trouble with this has muslims and supporters of the mosque going down feel that the people against the mosque are stereotyping and being basically douchebags.

The people who disagree with the mosque going down don't want it going near ground zero out of respect of 9/11 and some may just be douchebags who just don't want a mosque going down anywhere.

So that's both sides. To be honest I can see both sides points. It's not like it's on Ground Zero, think about all the underground prostitution joints near ground zero and what not, is a place of worship any better than a prostitution joint? I'd hope so. However the people who disagree just want Ground Zero to not have a mosque near it out of respect, but it wasn't the everyday muslim that participated in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. I don't see why they can't simply put the mosque elsewhere, surely muslims and supporters must understand and not be completely ignorant.

It's tough tbh.

Everybody has good points in a way.

Neku, they can't just move it now though, they own the land, that'd cost so much to move it.

Ican see both sides too, but one night I was watchign The Daily Show, and the mayor of NYC was on, and he said that even the families (whom he spoke with) of those who died don't mind the Mosque going up.
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/cdplayar
SoulSilverHeartGold

avatar

Posts : 2486
UT points : 4625
Join date : 2009-08-12
Age : 19
Location : Canada

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:19 pm

Gir wrote:
Want a reason? People are idiots. For most Americans, the moment anyone different than them puts a feet out of their houses, they give up the right to be left alone, and, as the roaches they are, act trying to impress a bunch of people they`ll never see in their lifetimes thinking that "OMG Im so Pr0, I am racist to a guy I dont even know lolololololololollololololo"...

This is the quote of truth
Back to top Go down
http://youtube.com/digimonloverseason2
Kanrik
Admin
Admin
avatar

Posts : 1486
UT points : 12062
Join date : 2009-05-07
Age : 26
Location : The Distortion World, its beautiful this time of year

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:20 pm

The Freedom Tower has been planned to be built on the actual ground zero, and to have a memorial for all who died within the building and from the planes themselves. Most of which were not Muslim. Further more, there was never a church (let alone a mosque) in the original Twin Towers, and they want to keep the design similiar to the world trade center: that means no religion inside.

Why no mosque in general? : The people of Manhattan aren't going to get over something like this for awhile, and human nature in general makes you dislike anything that has to do with something tragic. If the terrorists were Polish, nothing Polish would probably ever go around there, due to the fact that it might scare people. Thats why people are against it.

After awhile, it'll get put up anyways because people may actually realize that just because you believe in something doesn't mean your like everyone else. Considering most religion in general is the same besides the ways they practice it, its not that big of a deal. Its just that people in general don't think as open minded as they should anymore, let alone use common sense.

This means they will just have to change things up a bit and deal with it -.-

_________________



-Sig and Avi made by me-
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/pkTrainerKanrik
mrcatz

avatar

Posts : 1982
UT points : 6198
Join date : 2009-05-25
Age : 22
Location : you wonder why your mom was acting strange this morning O.o

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:30 pm

this is all I want to say about this issue. People are judging all people of the Islam religion cuz of some other people who like to bomb people. If that's the way they look at Islam then they have the right to look at us based off of a few people. It's bias and that's the way most people are Sad
Back to top Go down
Pialga93

avatar

Posts : 717
UT points : 3287
Join date : 2009-11-02
Age : 24
Location : Illinois

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:48 pm

mrcatz wrote:
this is all I want to say about this issue. People are judging all people of the Islam religion cuz of some other people who like to bomb people. If that's the way they look at Islam then they have the right to look at us based off of a few people. It's bias and that's the way most people are Sad
Besides, who says that the "bombing" wasn't orchestrated by a bunch of rich white guys, but I don't think getting into that is a good idea.
Back to top Go down
cdplayar

avatar

Posts : 1468
UT points : 5453
Join date : 2009-08-10
Age : 21
Location : Ontario, Canada!

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:53 pm

Pialga93 wrote:
mrcatz wrote:
this is all I want to say about this issue. People are judging all people of the Islam religion cuz of some other people who like to bomb people. If that's the way they look at Islam then they have the right to look at us based off of a few people. It's bias and that's the way most people are Sad
Besides, who says that the "bombing" wasn't orchestrated by a bunch of rich white guys, but I don't think getting into that is a good idea.

But there's a little known group called Al Qaeda....
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/cdplayar
Kanrik
Admin
Admin
avatar

Posts : 1486
UT points : 12062
Join date : 2009-05-07
Age : 26
Location : The Distortion World, its beautiful this time of year

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:55 pm

Pialga93 wrote:
mrcatz wrote:
this is all I want to say about this issue. People are judging all people of the Islam religion cuz of some other people who like to bomb people. If that's the way they look at Islam then they have the right to look at us based off of a few people. It's bias and that's the way most people are Sad
Besides, who says that the "bombing" wasn't orchestrated by a bunch of rich white guys, but I don't think getting into that is a good idea.
FYI: We trained Al Qaeda in Desert Storm.

_________________



-Sig and Avi made by me-
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/pkTrainerKanrik
Pialga93

avatar

Posts : 717
UT points : 3287
Join date : 2009-11-02
Age : 24
Location : Illinois

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:04 pm

Kanrik wrote:
Pialga93 wrote:
mrcatz wrote:
this is all I want to say about this issue. People are judging all people of the Islam religion cuz of some other people who like to bomb people. If that's the way they look at Islam then they have the right to look at us based off of a few people. It's bias and that's the way most people are Sad
Besides, who says that the "bombing" wasn't orchestrated by a bunch of rich white guys, but I don't think getting into that is a good idea.
FYI: We trained Al Qaeda in Desert Storm.
Hehe gotta love Zbrignew Brzinsky
Back to top Go down
Temius

avatar

Posts : 643
UT points : 3123
Join date : 2010-08-03
Age : 21

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:56 pm

I think it's ridiculous to punish an entire religion because of a few d-bags who just happened to practice that religion. I mean, lots of awful, terrible acts have been committed in the name of christianity, but that doesn't mean the religion itself is inherently evil.
Back to top Go down
Evil

avatar

Posts : 1177
UT points : 5166
Join date : 2009-08-13

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:44 am

you people keep saying that, you cant curve their ignorance and strong lingering feelings of the past


Back to top Go down
Temius

avatar

Posts : 643
UT points : 3123
Join date : 2010-08-03
Age : 21

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:46 am

Huh? What u talkin' 'bout?
Back to top Go down
Kanrik
Admin
Admin
avatar

Posts : 1486
UT points : 12062
Join date : 2009-05-07
Age : 26
Location : The Distortion World, its beautiful this time of year

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:54 am

Temius wrote:
Huh? What u talkin' 'bout?
9/11... That is what Evil is talking about -.-

_________________



-Sig and Avi made by me-
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/pkTrainerKanrik
cdplayar

avatar

Posts : 1468
UT points : 5453
Join date : 2009-08-10
Age : 21
Location : Ontario, Canada!

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:16 am

Temius wrote:
Huh? What u talkin' 'bout?

You aren't serious...
Back to top Go down
http://www.youtube.com/user/cdplayar
boris5000

avatar

Posts : 423
UT points : 3727
Join date : 2009-05-28
Age : 24
Location : London, UK

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:15 am

Well, if the mosque is built, I couldn't be suprised if some idiot american goes and blows it up in "Vengeance".

Let the damned thing be built. In Australia you either learn about CofE or remain ignorantly atheist.
Back to top Go down
Neku

avatar

Posts : 248
UT points : 3218
Join date : 2009-11-14
Age : 21
Location : Whoville

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:11 pm

Well this has been a more productive thread than most on here nowadays. I can see both sides like I said, you can't just be set on one idea and never be open to suggestions other wise your ignorant.
Back to top Go down
Evil

avatar

Posts : 1177
UT points : 5166
Join date : 2009-08-13

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:20 pm

boris5000 wrote:
Well, if the mosque is built, I couldn't be suprised if some idiot american goes and blows it up in "Vengeance".

Let the damned thing be built. In Australia you either learn about CofE or remain ignorantly atheist.

Well I hope they're not retarded enough to built it when theres a huge fking crowd outside.

Back to top Go down
Darkravenn12

avatar

Posts : 433
UT points : 4082
Join date : 2009-05-04
Location : underworld

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:10 pm

Americans just feel like they're gonna get bombed again. I am not Christian and live in America, and I still can practice my religion, so why cant they? IMO, i just say, LET IT BE BUILT! Honestly, it's a religious worship ground. If you're not going to let them have it, just like take down all the jewish synagogues and all the temples. Not like they're going to plot our destruction in a mosque >.<
Back to top Go down
thunderXVIII
Admin
Admin
avatar

Posts : 253
UT points : 7345
Join date : 2009-05-04
Age : 27
Location : [censored]

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:14 pm

honestly , i think it'd make the area safer, cause i know they prolly wouldn't enjoy the idea of blowing up their own church, although as i lost a friend during 9/11, i also strongly understand how some fellow americans could feel that building a mosque NEAR GZ would feel like a slap to the face. Then on the flip side, i understand also how it is not that way. so i say let them build it, if it goes kaboom, then they'll have to decide whether or not they wanna build again.


By the way, there IS something in the rules about religion, and you all should read it (don't worry, the rule will not cause this topic to be closed)

_________________

Myspace | LoneAspen | Youtube

†¢яιм†
Back to top Go down
http://www.myspace.com/marcous5
Evil

avatar

Posts : 1177
UT points : 5166
Join date : 2009-08-13

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:17 am

Since I'm like old and I dont really pay attention now a days, is there a new twin towers or is the old one still up except shorter?
Back to top Go down
Neku

avatar

Posts : 248
UT points : 3218
Join date : 2009-11-14
Age : 21
Location : Whoville

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:39 am

Let's think about this guys; what if, when the 9/11 attacks recently happens, would we still be as open minded as to letting a mosque go down? The answer is more than likely no, as all of America was angry and shocked when that happened. If the mosque was proposed to go down then there'd be a whole sh*t storm.
Back to top Go down
Temius

avatar

Posts : 643
UT points : 3123
Join date : 2010-08-03
Age : 21

PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:00 am

I think the problem is that we are even connecting the mosque to the attacks, at all! It's just a place of religious worship/community center that just happened to be built a couple blocks from a big disaster. The people building the mosque have no ulterior motives
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...   

Back to top Go down
 
Since there IS NO rule about religion discussion anymore...
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next
 Similar topics
-
» Fallout 4 Ending Discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS)
» Ard boyz rule faq
» Warhammer Fantasy Rule Book Available Newport Games
» Apocalypse Discussion
» New 40K Rule Book FAQ

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Uuttitan Forums :: Reality :: General Discussion-
Jump to: