New moves, what?

It has been confirmed that in the fifth gen...

Entei will have Extremespeed, Howl, and Crush Claw
Celebi will have Nasty Plot and Healing Wish
Suicune will have Air Slash, Extremespeed, and Aqua Ring
Raikou will have Aura Spherre, Weather Ball and Extremespeed


The most notable one to me is Raikou, who can now pose quite a threat on weather teams, being a good mid-game user of Sunny Day or Rain Dance and then firing off powerful Weather Balls. Entei is a close second, who now has Extremespeed to make up for its lackluster speed, so it can compete with arcanine for fire type of choice on UU teams.

Thoughts?

Source - http://www.smogon.com/

Actually those moves will be avalliable to anyone who preorders a ticket to Illiusion Master:Zoroak! The person will be randomly given one of the 3 beasts with new moves, along with a celebi for just going to the movie. So this wont effect us unless they decide to keep the moves for the 5th gen. Other than that, Shoddy Battle will be the only place you can legally use them, unless someone trades that pokemon.

I wish they were 5th gen moves that would be sweet. But I highly doubt it.

RadioactiveRaichu wrote:

Actually those moves will be avalliable to anyone who preorders a ticket to Illiusion Master:Zoroak! The person will be randomly given one of the 3 beasts with new moves, along with a celebi for just going to the movie. So this wont effect us unless they decide to keep the moves for the 5th gen. Other than that, Shoddy Battle will be the only place you can legally use them, unless someone trades that pokemon.

I wish they were 5th gen moves that would be sweet. But I highly doubt it.

oh my bad, that would be amazing if they were, though

Shnoogle wrote:

RadioactiveRaichu wrote:

Actually those moves will be avalliable to anyone who preorders a ticket to Illiusion Master:Zoroak! The person will be randomly given one of the 3 beasts with new moves, along with a celebi for just going to the movie. So this wont effect us unless they decide to keep the moves for the 5th gen. Other than that, Shoddy Battle will be the only place you can legally use them, unless someone trades that pokemon.

I wish they were 5th gen moves that would be sweet. But I highly doubt it.

oh my bad, that would be amazing if they were, though

I do believe the events will come to the US though via WiFi events, like the Arceus and PCP events have in the previous movie. If not, then you could always find a Japanese person with them and ask for them or do what any other person would do, Pokésav.

lol yeah when i get a working AR again I'll prob make quite a few pokemon
one that I have been wanting to make for quite a while, a choice specs sharpedo.
Don't dis it until you have tried it And I have tried it lol

Shnoogle wrote:

lol yeah when i get a working AR again I'll prob make quite a few pokemon
one that I have been wanting to make for quite a while, a choice specs sharpedo.
Don't dis it until you have tried it And I have tried it lol

Or you could always ask your best friend beasty to sav for you.
Anyhow I think The CB set will begin to become popular with Entei. Also receiving flare blitz not to long ago. Suicune with Air Slash. 0.o Why did they do that. Celebi will be pretty kewl to run with nasty plot in my opinion and I might get a shot. Also Raiko with Aura Sphere will help hit rock and steel types....and weather ball will be useful on weather teams. I maybe can picture Raiko moving up to BL on Smogon tiers at least. I go by the AA tiers though.....

I can definitely see Entei and Raikou moving up in the tiers list pretty soon. I'm just more concerned about whether or not the beasts have a good nature and a decent set of IVs to boot.

Beastof2000 wrote:

Shnoogle wrote:

lol yeah when i get a working AR again I'll prob make quite a few pokemon
one that I have been wanting to make for quite a while, a choice specs sharpedo.
Don't dis it until you have tried it And I have tried it lol

Or you could always ask your best friend beasty to sav for you.
Anyhow I think The CB set will begin to become popular with Entei. Also receiving flare blitz not to long ago. Suicune with Air Slash. 0.o Why did they do that. Celebi will be pretty kewl to run with nasty plot in my opinion and I might get a shot. Also Raiko with Aura Sphere will help hit rock and steel types....and weather ball will be useful on weather teams. I maybe can picture Raiko moving up to BL on Smogon tiers at least. I go by the AA tiers though.....

lol thanks when i get my DS back I'll ask you

Sweetness wrote:

I can definitely see Entei and Raikou moving up in the tiers list pretty soon. I'm just more concerned about whether or not the beasts have a good nature and a decent set of IVs to boot.

Raikou was already a BL suspect, and now the new moves kinda assure it will be BL, but Entei, while it has flare blitz and extremespeed now still faces some competition from arcanine, who has intimidate and morning sun to recover recoil damage.

You bring up a good point about IVs. Hopefully there will be people who can get some good ones