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waterkunai1
Posts : 37 UT points : 5271 Join date : 2010-01-09 Age : 27
| Subject: Poke-Counters Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:35 pm | |
| Feedback please I have tested it and worked 7/10 of the times
1st Pokemon countered : Machamp
One of my most hated pokemon along with spore breeloom is no guard machamp because it dynamic punches for confusion
Counters:
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Regice Item:Focus sash/the berry that heals confusion
EV 252 def (0 if countering) 252 hp (as above) 6 SpA (252 if zap cannon)
Moveset: Zap cannon Blizzard Counter Explosion
This set is made to take advantage of machamp no guard which makes all moves hit on him and on its opponent, first Zap cannon if it hits it will paralize a paralized machamp is easily killed by a good counter that resist dynamic punch, then focus sash is more risky but if it succeeds it k0s machamp: It holds on focus sash and then counter, simple but the confusion may kill regice himelf
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Darkhunter101
Posts : 660 UT points : 6086 Join date : 2009-06-12 Age : 28 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Poke-Counters Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:43 pm | |
| Regice gets OHKO'd, and none of your moves will kill a machamp, meaning this isn't a counter to machamp...:/ | |
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waterkunai1
Posts : 37 UT points : 5271 Join date : 2010-01-09 Age : 27
| Subject: focus sash Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:48 pm | |
| there goes the focus sash and counter also the zap cannon is for paralizys, blizzard for STAB and explosion for umm exploding?
also this is for not expected counters so it may not be 100% effective but atleast works
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waterkunai1
Posts : 37 UT points : 5271 Join date : 2010-01-09 Age : 27
| Subject: Waller trapper Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:49 pm | |
| Did you ever got walled by an annoying blissey? here is an unexpected way to get rid of it and other walls
Jynx
Nature: Bold EVs: 252 Special def 252 Def 6 hp Moveset
Block Perish song Protect Taunt/Ice beam
This set consist of trapping any wall, block it and perish stall it. The taunt is optional for toxic and ice beam to avoid being walled by a taunt | |
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Darkravenn12
Posts : 433 UT points : 6551 Join date : 2009-05-04 Location : underworld
| Subject: Re: Poke-Counters Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:37 pm | |
| - waterkunai1 wrote:
- there goes the focus sash and counter
also the zap cannon is for paralizys, blizzard for STAB and explosion for umm exploding?
also this is for not expected counters so it may not be 100% effective but atleast works actually d-punch will leave u confused, and only have a 50% chance of hitting blizzard wont ohko and zap cannon has horrible accuracy your better off exploding on it, but then there's no point having this although jynx looks good | |
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CaseyR
Posts : 567 UT points : 5977 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 27 Location : Your mother. ...Yeah, I went there.
| Subject: Re: Poke-Counters Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:01 pm | |
| - Darkravenn12 wrote:
- waterkunai1 wrote:
- there goes the focus sash and counter
also the zap cannon is for paralizys, blizzard for STAB and explosion for umm exploding?
also this is for not expected counters so it may not be 100% effective but atleast works blizzard wont ohko and zap cannon has horrible accuracy Are you forgeting No Guard? | |
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Darkravenn12
Posts : 433 UT points : 6551 Join date : 2009-05-04 Location : underworld
| Subject: Re: Poke-Counters Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:57 am | |
| - CaseyR wrote:
- Darkravenn12 wrote:
- waterkunai1 wrote:
- there goes the focus sash and counter
also the zap cannon is for paralizys, blizzard for STAB and explosion for umm exploding?
also this is for not expected counters so it may not be 100% effective but atleast works blizzard wont ohko and zap cannon has horrible accuracy Are you forgeting No Guard? oops yeah i did but still neither move will ohko and the regice has a higher chance of being confuse haxed than the machmap does of being parahaxed btw, on jynx give it taunt instead of ice beam to stop u from being t-waved and change its evs to 252 hp, 252 special defense, 6 speed its defense is pretty horrible, and will most likely get ohkoed after the defense evs anyway | |
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77pudding
Posts : 81 UT points : 5703 Join date : 2009-05-26 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Poke-Counters Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:50 pm | |
| - Darkravenn12 wrote:
- CaseyR wrote:
- Darkravenn12 wrote:
- waterkunai1 wrote:
- there goes the focus sash and counter
also the zap cannon is for paralizys, blizzard for STAB and explosion for umm exploding?
also this is for not expected counters so it may not be 100% effective but atleast works blizzard wont ohko and zap cannon has horrible accuracy Are you forgeting No Guard? oops yeah i did but still neither move will ohko and the regice has a higher chance of being confuse haxed than the machmap does of being parahaxedbtw, on jynx give it taunt instead of ice beam to stop u from being t-waved and change its evs to 252 hp, 252 special defense, 6 speed its defense is pretty horrible, and will most likely get ohkoed after the defense evs anyway Actucally If zap cannon hits its a paralyzed due to the 100% effect rate | |
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saxman1324
Posts : 531 UT points : 6078 Join date : 2009-11-02 Age : 30 Location : Here... There... And Everywhere
| Subject: Re: Poke-Counters Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:30 pm | |
| - 77pudding wrote:
- Darkravenn12 wrote:
- CaseyR wrote:
- Darkravenn12 wrote:
- waterkunai1 wrote:
- there goes the focus sash and counter
also the zap cannon is for paralizys, blizzard for STAB and explosion for umm exploding?
also this is for not expected counters so it may not be 100% effective but atleast works blizzard wont ohko and zap cannon has horrible accuracy Are you forgeting No Guard? oops yeah i did but still neither move will ohko and the regice has a higher chance of being confuse haxed than the machmap does of being parahaxedbtw, on jynx give it taunt instead of ice beam to stop u from being t-waved and change its evs to 252 hp, 252 special defense, 6 speed its defense is pretty horrible, and will most likely get ohkoed after the defense evs anyway Actucally If zap cannon hits its a paralyzed due to the 100% effect rate being para lyzed, yes. being para haxed like he said, is a bad chance. the two are similar but the meaning of the words are totally different o and i enjoy this little series i guess you could call it, but why only wall counters? i mean give a psychic type the same berry or simply scarf/specs/LO psychic it and machamp is out of the game. i know thats rather simple and predictable, but a pokemon to counter 1 pokemon that might not even be on their team is, in lack of other words, foolish. no offense, if it works then thats very cool and props for you, but why the effort? jynx, however, is a cool idea for a perish staller. as long as you can take the attacks, then i could see it being successful. and if you want to find more usefulness from the regice, curse+counter set from smogon is a decent set that will always live a dynamic punch even without a curse boost. and give it the confusion relieving berry to protect it from the confusion and counter it for the kill | |
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77pudding
Posts : 81 UT points : 5703 Join date : 2009-05-26 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Poke-Counters Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:57 pm | |
| - saxman1324 wrote:
- 77pudding wrote:
- Darkravenn12 wrote:
- CaseyR wrote:
- Darkravenn12 wrote:
- waterkunai1 wrote:
- there goes the focus sash and counter
also the zap cannon is for paralizys, blizzard for STAB and explosion for umm exploding?
also this is for not expected counters so it may not be 100% effective but atleast works blizzard wont ohko and zap cannon has horrible accuracy Are you forgeting No Guard? oops yeah i did but still neither move will ohko and the regice has a higher chance of being confuse haxed than the machmap does of being parahaxedbtw, on jynx give it taunt instead of ice beam to stop u from being t-waved and change its evs to 252 hp, 252 special defense, 6 speed its defense is pretty horrible, and will most likely get ohkoed after the defense evs anyway Actucally If zap cannon hits its a paralyzed due to the 100% effect rate being paralyzed, yes. being parahaxed like he said, is a bad chance. the two are similar but the meaning of the words are totally different
o and i enjoy this little series i guess you could call it, but why only wall counters? i mean give a psychic type the same berry or simply scarf/specs/LO psychic it and machamp is out of the game. i know thats rather simple and predictable, but a pokemon to counter 1 pokemon that might not even be on their team is, in lack of other words, foolish. no offense, if it works then thats very cool and props for you, but why the effort?
jynx, however, is a cool idea for a perish staller. as long as you can take the attacks, then i could see it being successful.
and if you want to find more usefulness from the regice, curse+counter set from smogon is a decent set that will always live a dynamic punch even without a curse boost. and give it the confusion relieving berry to protect it from the confusion and counter it for the kill opps sorry I read it wrong sorry. | |
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waterkunai1
Posts : 37 UT points : 5271 Join date : 2010-01-09 Age : 27
| Subject: Jynx Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:15 pm | |
| Jynx can be used to trap most pokes, but boosted ones may k0 jynx before completing the song | |
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