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PostSubject: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:28 pm

Ledian(Jajaja)(M)@Leftovers
Swarm
Timid
252 SPE/248 HP/ 8DEF
Bug Buzz
Agility
Substitute
Baton Pass

Lopunny(Look!)(F)@Choice Band
Cute Charm
Jolly
252 SPE/252 ATK/6 DEF
Bounce
Drain Punch
Fire Punch
Switcheroo

Lunatone(OHAI:D)@Leftovers
Levitate
Relaxed
252 DEF/252 HP/ 6 SP DEF
Stealth Rock
Earth Power
Ice Beam
Pain Split

Qwilfish(SushiXD)(M)@Leftovers
Poison Point
Jolly
252 SPE/252 ATK/ 4 SP DEF
Toxic Spikes
Poison Jab
Explode
Waterfall

Bastiodon(NewBeast)(M)@Leftovers
Sassy
252 SP DEF/252 HP/6 DEF
Earthquake
Taunt
Rock Slide
Toxic

Skuntank(ObvsKarp)(F)@Leftovers
Aftermath
Lonely
252 SPE/252 ATK/6 SP DEF
Flamethrower
Roar
Poison Jab
Explosion

Just trying to get good speed and get some good support, cause I want Lopunny to be my main sweep.


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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:01 pm

ok
this team is easily swept
It is too weak to rock types, and there's barely any synergy
Also u forgot to post the naures
Giga impact is a horrible move, and t-punch wont really help u, just give it return instead, its stronger than super effective t-punch anyway, and hits gastrodon and whishcash and quagsire
Also, y does ur lopunny have choice band and role play
role play is a horrible move in the 1st place, combined with cb means ur locked on it forever
Id make the last move switcheroo for walls
Id change ur team around, b/c if a relicanth comes in, which it can easily on ur team
On like ur qwilfish or something
It can rock polish
and ohko ur whole team
Y do u have 6 hp on ditto, it has to be 252 hp, 252 speed, the evs u put in dont transfer over after u transform. I wouldnt recommend using ditto, it really isnt that good, but u can use it if u want i guess.
For skuntank, u dont need max sp.atk just for 1 sp.atk, so replace it with sucker punch for priority and give it max hp
Also, u have no special wall at all, and if i were u, id replace ditto with it
For lunatone, dont use blizzard, use ice beam instead, and replace psychic with earth power for coverage
Y are u using astonish on qwilfish! It''s a completely horrible move, give it explosion, and replace all the hp with speed evs, it needs to outspeed things, its not a bulky poke
Also, u need more than 1 sweeper
Lopunny cant kill the whole team with just some support, get another swepeer, a special sweeper to hit on the special side, b/c almost ur whole team is physical
Also , post the natures please
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:00 pm

To begin with, sorry if I repeat anything Ravenn said. I just skimmed what he said.

Ledian isn't a particularly good lead. Your opponent would easily put as much pressure as they could on it, and what happens entirely depends on their lead. It works alright I suppose, though.

As for Lopunny, Why would you band your main sweeper? They can switch into something, depending on what you stick yourself onto, and not only setup, but also destroy a huge part of your strategy.

I really see no point in the rest of this team. What, do you expect to use Stealth Rock, switch out for the Toxic Spikes, and then switch again for the Roar or something? It's really a drawn out process that doesn't work. The other moves really have no point as well, on each of the Pokemon.

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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:20 pm

cdplayar wrote:
Ledian(Jajaja)(M)@Leftovers
Swarm
252 SPE/248 HP/ 8DEF
Bug Buzz
Agility
Substitute
Baton Pass

Lopunny(Look!)(F)@Choice Band
Cute Charm
252 SPE/252 ATK/6 DEF
Giga Impact/Thunder Punch
Drain Punch
Fire Punch
Role Play

Lunatone(OHAI:D)@Leftovers
Levitate
252 DEF/252 HP/ 6 SP DEF
Stealth Rock
Psychic
Blizzard
Pain Split

Qwilfish(SushiXD)(M)@Leftovers
Poison Point
252 HP/252 ATK/ 4 SP DEF
Toxic Spikes
Poison Jab
Astonish
Waterfall

Ditto(MushyGoo)@Leftovers
Limber
252 SPE/126 ATK/126 AP ATK/6 HP
Transform

Skuntank(ObvsKarp)(F)@Leftovers
Aftermath
252 SP ATK/252 ATK/6 SP DEF
Flamethrower
Roar
Poison Jab
Explosion

Just trying to get good speed and get some good support, cause I want Lopunny to be my main sweep.

Ditto is probably the worst choice ever bar Luvdisc.

I was wondering why you weren't using Qwilfish as a lead. Besides, your Qwilfish carries some interesting choices for moves.

I see that your general idea is a Baton Pass team, but the team synergy is really paper thin or there is none at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:55 am

Aha, woopsies.
I saved the file with the natures in it, but I guess i didn't.
Neutral
I'll get rid of ditto, thanks guys, I'll revise it for tmo, cause I ave company.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:30 pm

All edited, please rate again.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:01 pm

I would suggest possibly switching substitute for encore
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:46 pm

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I would suggest possibly switching substitute for encore
That's one of the things I though, but I was like, how do I get the Agility up without getting K'O'd by the SE move? Cause I'll likely out speed them.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:16 pm

cdplayar wrote:
Temius wrote:
I would suggest possibly switching substitute for encore
That's one of the things I though, but I was like, how do I get the Agility up without getting K'O'd by the SE move? Cause I'll likely out speed them.
Then maybe just switch out bug buzz for encore, cause with no attack evs and no swords dance, that Ledian will do next to nothing, damage-wise
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:39 pm

Temius wrote:
cdplayar wrote:
Temius wrote:
I would suggest possibly switching substitute for encore
That's one of the things I though, but I was like, how do I get the Agility up without getting K'O'd by the SE move? Cause I'll likely out speed them.
Then maybe just switch out bug buzz for encore, cause with no attack evs and no swords dance, that Ledian will do next to nothing, damage-wise
Then taunt makes it useless.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:46 pm

leafshadow wrote:
Temius wrote:
cdplayar wrote:
Temius wrote:
I would suggest possibly switching substitute for encore
That's one of the things I though, but I was like, how do I get the Agility up without getting K'O'd by the SE move? Cause I'll likely out speed them.
Then maybe just switch out bug buzz for encore, cause with no attack evs and no swords dance, that Ledian will do next to nothing, damage-wise
Then taunt makes it useless.
Even if it HAD bug buzz, you're not gonna stay in there and fight. You'll switch either way.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:12 pm

why does quilifish have astonish?
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:37 am

Pialga93 wrote:
why does quilifish have astonish?

It's a filler for now.

@Other People
I'm keeping Bug Buzz in case I have to fight! O:
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:18 pm

It won't do anything! You have NO attack EVs, NO swords dance, and you have a pokemon with really low base attack! How much damage do you think you will do!?! Just. Switch. Out!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:22 pm

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It won't do anything! You have NO attack EVs, NO swords dance, and you have a pokemon with really low base attack! How much damage do you think you will do!?! Just. Switch. Out!!!!!!

Dude, learn what you're talking about.
Bug Buzz is a special attack.
Neutral
Besides, it needs something to do if it's the last Pokémon.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:25 pm

I'm sorry. I meant special attack. And if it's the last pokemon, you really messed up!!! Regardless of if you have bug buzz or not. If this guy's last, you're screwed
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:28 pm

Temius wrote:
I'm sorry. I meant special attack. And if it's the last pokemon, you really messed up!!! Regardless of if you have bug buzz or not. If this guy's last, you're screwed

Enemy at almost 0 HP, their last.
Me, 252 speed EVS and outspeed.
Can make all the difference.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:36 pm

Yeah, but how many times do you think that's gonna happen? Encore is useful a lot more frequently. Weigh the usefulness of the two moves. Encore can be used in many situations, bug buzz is only useful in a EXTREMELY unlike situation where your opponent has next to no HP and you somehow outspeed it. Think! Use your head!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:40 pm

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Yeah, but how many times do you think that's gonna happen? Encore is useful a lot more frequently. Weigh the usefulness of the two moves. Encore can be used in many situations, bug buzz is only useful in a EXTREMELY unlike situation where your opponent has next to no HP and you somehow outspeed it. Think! Use your head!!!

*cough* Taunt.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:42 pm

cdplayar wrote:
Temius wrote:
Yeah, but how many times do you think that's gonna happen? Encore is useful a lot more frequently. Weigh the usefulness of the two moves. Encore can be used in many situations, bug buzz is only useful in a EXTREMELY unlike situation where your opponent has next to no HP and you somehow outspeed it. Think! Use your head!!!

*cough* Taunt.
*cough* you'll barely do any damage anyway and will almost all of the time be forced to switch *cough*
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:43 pm

Darkravenn12 wrote:
cdplayar wrote:
Temius wrote:
Yeah, but how many times do you think that's gonna happen? Encore is useful a lot more frequently. Weigh the usefulness of the two moves. Encore can be used in many situations, bug buzz is only useful in a EXTREMELY unlike situation where your opponent has next to no HP and you somehow outspeed it. Think! Use your head!!!

*cough* Taunt.
*cough* you'll barely do any damage anyway and will almost all of the time be forced to switch *cough*

True,
but still, I'm going to keep BB till I test this team out.

K guys, I updated it, take a looksie.
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:05 pm

why'd you even post this as an RMT if you won't take any of our advice? We know what we're talking about
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PostSubject: Re: Rate my first NU team. :)<3   Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:18 pm

Temius wrote:
why'd you even post this as an RMT if you won't take any of our advice? We know what we're talking about

I did take earlier advice bub.
Got rid of a few moves, added a new Pokemon.
Special wall.
Guy, don't hate.
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