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Dwaggy.

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PostSubject: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptyFri Mar 26, 2010 7:45 pm

Its A Rainy Day.


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2 Hawt for Glaceon. ;D
(Disclaimer: NO the team does NOT have Vaporeon. Put your pitch forks down plz.)

Intro:
~ Wow, okay, its my first RMT here. <3 You know, I really wish there was a RMT maker machine so I don't have to type all these **** words. D=
Anyway, you probably wondering what this team is about despite my babbiling; its a Rain Dance team. <3 How good is it? Hey, its as good as its want it to be; its about 9-0.

~ How did it get started? First, I really like themed teams. <3 Second, I'll tell you guys this much; 'm really a person who hates stall teams. Cause of the oh so Fabled Skarm / Bliss. X3 So, I first tried out Trick Room, but...when its over, I'm usually revenged in some way since my pokemon were so slow anyway. So, eventually after some advanced chemical formulas and breaking the record of the speed of light, I found mah Rain Dance team, complements of the oh so annoying Damp Rock. Sop I wiped the dust off my purdy kingdra and gorebyss so I can do such. <3

~ I'm also someone who likes the fast and good power, which is what Rain Dance is all about. <3 And now...for teh pokemon! (Goes to sleep while you look)



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....(Wakes up) Ah, your back...Its not very colorful eh? ^^ Hm, here are the guise more in depth:


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Gliscor グライオン @ Damp Rock *** MsVampire
Sand Veil
200 HP | 56 Att | 252 Spe
Jolly nature [+Speed, -Special Attack]

* Earthquake
* Rain Dance
* Roost
* U-Turn

**** Ah yes, Gliscor as a lead, and the guy who first sets up the rain. He's great since I'd be out-speeding things like Heatran, so I can get the rain dance up, without worrying about Fire Blast, etc., and then either Earthquaking or U-turning. I'd have to watch for explosion though. As for things like Azelf or Aerodactyl, its an easy U-turn to scizor, since they'd be most likely be taunting me. Its EV's in speed allow it to outspeed regular 216 other Gliscor, so I can Rain up, before it can taunt it. For Metagross leads, they have a habit of Explosing on this thing, so I'd be Rain Dancing before they do, or, Earthquake can 2HKO them. This thing is also my best bet on beating Lucario, if it sticks around, thanks to Roost, increasing its survivability. Also, you may know that Rain Dance teams hate Tyranitar, so this thing can also serve as a effective Tyranitar checker.


**** Gliscor: Everyone has purple blood right? Get ready for it to be sucked. BY ME. =3
Me: It is my understanding that blood is RED. >.>
Gliscor: Oooh, Cherry flavored then? =3


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Kabutops カブトプス @ Life Orb *** EmoShell
Swift Swim
56 HP | 252 Att | 200 Spe
Adament nature [+Attack, -Special Attack]

* Waterfall
* Swords Dance
* Stone Edge
* Aqua Jet

**** No surprise here; Kabutops is one of my Rain Dance sweepers. I tried the Choice Banded version, but I always found myself being walled by like, a Vaporeon or incoming DD Kingdra to get a free Dragon Dance, so I chose the Swords dance variant. Nothing much to say, after a DD, I saw it kill a vaporeon in one Hit, along with a few other things, like Blissey, or 2 Hitting Skarmory. Aqua Jet is for mainly those who are running priority moves like Mach Punch and such. SO basically, just to sum this thing up, it OHKOs, and 2HKOs. 200 SPe is to outspeed 184 Spe Kabutops, and scarfed stuff like Flygon, etc.

**** Kaboutops: Imma cut SO bad that...you'd wish I weren't gonna cut you so bad!
Me: Then I'd be happy that I was cut just a little? O-O I'm emo too. ^-^




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Scizor ハッサム @ Damp Rock *** Kagen
Technician
176 HP | 156 Att | 176 Spe
Adament nature [+Attack, -Special Attack]

* Bullet Punch
* U-turn
* Roost
* Rain Dance

**** So yeah, secondary Rain Dancer. He's so cool in rain; and thanks to his EV's, along with the Rain, he can easily U-turn on those Latias or Celebi without worrying about Hidden Power [Fire] OHKOing. U-turn, of course has that benefit of easily switching to another rain dance sweeper, and not worrying it being trapped my Magnezone or (lol Dugtrio) It can also be a great Tyranitar checker, just in cause it suddenly comes along to stop my Rainy fun, and attempt to 2HKOing it with Bullet Punch. Again, the EV's let it be on the bulky side, since Rain Dance teams are usually frail. It can also be a follow up with Gliscor, to bullet punch aerodactyl, should I come across one.


****Scizor: Imma cut you so bad that...that, you'd wish that I wouldn't cut you so bad!
Me: Where have I heard that before...wait, are in a Scizor costume Kabutops?!


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Kingdra キングドラ @ Life Orb *** Shino
Swift Swim
176 Att | 113 SpA | 225 Spe
Naughty nature [+Attack, -Special Defense]

* Waterfall
* Draco Meteor
* Signal Beam
* Hydro Pump

**** Secondary Rain Dance sweeper, Classic Mixed Kingdra in the rain, and is she oh so powerful. Waterfall 2 Hit Ko's Blissey,and Draco Meteor can OHKO any Dragon. Hydro Pump is of course its main move, being so powerful in the rain. Signal Beam is supposed to be for Celebi, but...this is the only move that is in subject on change. 225 Spe EV's allow it to outrun smogon's 16 Spe Mixed Kingdra in the rain, while 113 SPA EVs lets it hit stuff harder with Hydro Pump, and the rest are thrown into HP for bulk. I usually send her in to mid-game to take latias's surf, etc.


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Registeel レジスチル @ Damp Rock *** TetrisFTW
Clear Body
252 HP | 168 Att | 88 Def
Impish nature [+Def -Special Attack]

* Explosion
* Rain Dance
* Stealth Rock
* Shadow Claw

**** Well, I'm a guy who believes that "you can never be too careful" so I have Registeel here as a third Rain Dancer. He's great because he can resist Tyranitar's Crunch, sets up stealth rock for Kingdra to OHKO stuff, and explode on something for an opening for my sweepers. Shadow Claw is for ghosts who aren't affected by Explosion...namely Gengar and Rotom-A. As for the EVs...they're standard tank EVs, but I dunno, maybe they need some work? But they allow it to survive a +1 DD Salamence's Earthquake, a Fire Blast from choice Scarf Heatran, etc.

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Gorebyss サクラビス @ Life Orb *** Izuna
Swift Swim
Modest nature [+Special Attack -Attack]
6 HP | 252 SpA | 252 Spe

* Hydro Pump
* Ice Beam
* Hidden Power [Electric]
* Rain Dance

**** My favourite sweeper in this team, Gorebyss. I'm currently choosing her over Omastar because she's more on the special Defense side when facing Vaporeon or Latias and such. Ice Beam, of course for Dragons like Flygon and Salamence. Hidden Power Electric is for Vappy and Gyarados, Hydro Pump is its STAB move, and it can set up its own Rain Dance. I dunno, I think this pokemon is the most likely for change, if its necessary.


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Considerable Changes:
Bronzong > Registeel (?)
Outrage on Kingdra
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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptyFri Mar 26, 2010 9:47 pm

Nice looking team though I have a few nitpicks...

-When you are talking about kingdra's EVs... I don't see why you need 225 to outpace other kingdra with only 16 EVs lol. You really should aim to outspeed scarf latias in rain which means you need 228 speed EVs to outspeed by 1 point (526 > 525). This is considering you have a 31 speed IV and a naughty nature, and latias has a 31 speed IV and a timid nature w/ a scarf.
Your previous EVs for kingdra added up to 514, so they were illegal/misposted. Make them this - 228 speed, 176 attack, 104 Sp. attack. This keeps your ability to defeat Blissey w/ a 2HKO in rain (Bold, 252 Def) while still retaining massive power from hydro pump and outspeeding timid choice scarf latias. May I suggest replacing signal beam with dragon pulse? This way you can defeat dragons w/out resorting to a 90 accuracy move w/ a major drawback. Plus, scizor takes care of Celebi.

-Quagsire and Toxicroak really give this team trouble, and although uncommon in OU, they are not unheard of... Quagsire gaining recover and potential for a curse set spiked its use and toxicroak is, well, a good revenge killer and sweeper in general, as well as a major threat to rain dance teams. With quagsire's water absorb, the only pokemon that can significantly hurt it are kingdra through draco meteor which does 89% max with your EVs and lfe orb, considering quagy is impish, with 252 HP. Curse varients (careful, 252 HP, 252 Sp. Def) only take 59% max from kingdra's draco meteor meaning you will only do 88% max after two turns WITHOUT factoring in leftovers for Quagsire. So it is more like 76% max.
A skilled opponent will know that you will explode if you switch in a registeel into a bulky water, so they will just switch, and your scizor will only do 40% max with a U-Turn to 252 HP, 0 Def (That's right... 0 Def EVs) QuagsireSo he can recover by the next time you switch in while cursing up in the process.
To fix this problem, run HP Grass on gorebyss instead of electric, and if you are really paranoid about gyarados, HP electric can go over my aforementioned dragon pulse. To fix the toxicroak problem, run psychic over rain dance on gorebyss as 3 users is enough.

-The 252 Speed on Gliscor is unnecessary as you are the only common lead with your Base Speed in OU. Try using 220 Speed with a jolly nature (To outpace jolly lead gliscor by 1 point so it will not taunt your rain dance), 252 HP, 36 Defense to give you some bulk to continuously set up Rain Dance.

-Your Scizor EVs are a little random. Try 248 HP, 8 Speed, 252 Attack which gives you more bulk and allows you to outspeed 0 Speed Vaporeon so you can smack it with a U-Turn before it Surfs you. The 248 HP is key and it lets you take less damage from Stealth Rock than a 252 HP Scizor would. 252 Attack is obvious. Another spread is 248 HP, 224 Sp. Def, 8 Speed, 28 Attack which allows Scizor to survive an HP fire from magnezone when rain is not in effect (assuming a timid/naive nature for the magnezone w/ 252 Sp. Attack EVs) when SR is NOT present.

Good Luck with your team Smile
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Herpdidderp

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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptyFri Mar 26, 2010 11:41 pm

Nice 'nitpicks'. I have a single one.

Wtf is Gliscor doing as your lead. You're increasing it's weakness to Water. Gliscor doesn't fit in with the team well in general, even if it is to provide an Electric immunity. There are much better options. Azelf leads more effectively and can SR so Registeel doesn't have to waste a slot doing so.
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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptySat Mar 27, 2010 7:10 am

@Shnoogle: Kingdra actually has Outrage now; sorry I forgot to edit it. ^^;

Maybe.... HP Grass > HP Electric on Gorebyss? Or maybe an Omastar for Quagsire?

But, I agree on the EV's, so, I changed it to yours. <3
It does help to outspeed other kingdras. >> Its VERY useful.

Gliscor was EV'd designed to outspeed other Jolly gliscor to prevent from taunting it first. <3

As for scizor; its actually on the special defensive side to help with Starmies, and those common HP Fire Magnezones; so there's no need for the standard set, actually, IMO.

@Herpdidderp: That's not true; Gliscor is great on this team because its my Tyranitar and Lucario check. Azelf didn't help much for me since I do want someone to check Breloom too. Also, there's 3 guys who resist water, so I really don't need to worry about Gliscor's weaknesses. Actually, I SHOULD have put taunt somewhere though.


And...I guess I'll try out DSUxie which my team probably appreciates a Screen.
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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptySat Mar 27, 2010 2:05 pm

Dwaggy. wrote:
@Herpdidderp: That's not true; Gliscor is great on this team because its my Tyranitar and Lucario check. Azelf didn't help much for me since I do want someone to check Breloom too. Also, there's 3 guys who resist water, so I really don't need to worry about Gliscor's weaknesses. Actually, I SHOULD have put taunt somewhere though.
You have Scizor, you have no need for Gliscor to check Tyranitar. Your team is raped silly by Breloom even with Gliscor. The only weapon you have against him is STAB resisted EQ off a very low invested base 95 Attack. That doesn't help. At all. If you break his sub you still can't do anything to him and will fall to Seed Bomb or Leech Seed. Roosting gives away Gliscor's ability to bring down Breloom and resist its attacks. With Rain, STAB Water attacks are multiplied by 2.25 which means anything with a resist will still be taking more damage than if it was a neutral hit. You have a single true resist on your team and it has no form of recovery, no bulk, and a Life Orb.

Lucario is mentionable however. You could use Specs/LO Zapdos > Gorebyss to remedy this and have a much more effective lead RD user. You aren't using Thunder to it's maximum capacity from what I see.
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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptySat Mar 27, 2010 2:31 pm

I'd prefer LO Zapdos or Lefties then....

Maybe HP Grass on it too?
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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptySat Mar 27, 2010 2:38 pm

Dwaggy. wrote:
I'd prefer LO Zapdos or Lefties then....

Maybe HP Grass on it too?
Only for Quagsire..? Draco Meteor decimates Quagsire so I don't see much point in it. Ice would be better since your team will have many issues with Latias.
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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptySat Mar 27, 2010 2:40 pm

Registeel and Scizor can both handle Latias.
That's why scizor is special defensive based.

Also Swampert isn't a fun poke on this team to deal with. V///V
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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptySat Mar 27, 2010 2:44 pm

Dwaggy. wrote:
Registeel and Scizor can both handle Latias.
That's why scizor is special defensive based.

Also Swampert isn't a fun poke on this team to deal with. V///V
Swampert takes massive damage from any Rain boosted Water attack.

Your Kingdra's Hydro Pump: 282 - 333 (69.80% - 82.43%)
+2 Kabutops' Waterfall: 406 - 478 (100.50% - 118.32%)

It really shouldn't be an issue for your team.

Scizor and Registeel don't have Pursuit. It's still an issue.
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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptySat Mar 27, 2010 2:50 pm

Scizor has Roost; and Kingdra can outspeed it in Rain. =/

Really, I never had a real Latias threat.
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PostSubject: Re: RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^)   RUN in water. =3 (RMT for your laffz. ^-^) EmptySat Mar 27, 2010 2:52 pm

Dwaggy. wrote:
Scizor has Roost; and Kingdra can outspeed it in Rain. =/

Really, I never had a real Latias threat.
If you don't then I won't question it. I just saw you had nothing that particularily switched into it well. And Scizor will be taken down in Rain from Surf (though you would just switch out of it) while Kingdra can't switch in and must revenge kill.
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Mmm okay; well I'll at least try HP Ice then.

Big thanks for the help. =)
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