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SoulSilverHeartGold

Posts: 2485 UT points: 2728 Join date: 2009-08-12 Age: 14 Location: Canada
 | Subject: Doubles hail team Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:09 pm | |
| SSHG'S Hail Team  Abomasnow@Light Clay Snow Warning EVs: 252 Atk/ 252 Speed / 4 HP Jolly (+Speed –SP Atk) -Ice Shard -Earthquake -Light Screen -Leech Seed Abomasnow has 3 purposes in this team. To set up hail, set up light screen, and to leech the opponent. He also can attack. Ice shard is for proiority and Rock slide its the cover the weakness of fire.  Froslass@Life Orb Snow Cloak EVs: 252 SP Atk/ 252 Speed/ 4 HP Modest (+SP Atk –Atk) -Blizzard/Weather Ball -Thunder Wave/Taunt/Confuse Ray -Spikes -Thunderbolt/Signal Beam Froslass's role of this team is to set up spikes. Blizzard and Weather ball both benefit from hail so I am taking that into consideration. Gengar@Choice Scarf Levitate EVs: 252 SP Atk/ 252 Speed/ 4 Def Modest (+SP Atk -Atk) -Trick -Thunderbolt -Energy Ball -Shadow Ball Gengar is used to trick pokemon into getting items such as leftovers. If Gengar gets leftovers then gengar won't get hail damage. If gengar gets life orb it will make it more powerful. Since life orb and leftovers are the most common lead items I don't have to worry much about other items.  Walrein@Leftovers Ice Body EVs: 252 Def/ 124 Atk/ 132 HP Brave (+Atk –Speed) -Ice Ball -Toxic/Aqua Ring -Defense Curl -Substitute Walrein along with Regice can stall the whole battle out with their amazing defensive stats/abilities. Walrein is apposed to stall and heal with the support of hail. Aqua ring can heal walrein even more or toxic can stall out the opponent. Defense curl and Ice ball is in this set because defense curl doubles the base power of Ice ball.  Regice@Leftovers Clear Body EVs: 252 SP Atk/ 252 SP Def/ 4 HP Calm (+SP Def –Atk) -Amnesia -Flash Cannon -Charge Beam -Blizzard/Ice Beam Well like I said the purpose of this thing is to stall. With excellent Special Defense it can be almost un-stoppable! This is also a Special Attacker. Charge beam can be really useful because it will boost the Special attack stat. Flash cannon might lower the special defense stat of the opponent too! Blizzard or ice beam will work. Ice beam is just in case there is another weather team.  Dragonite@Leftovers Inner Focus EVs: 252 Atk/ 252 Speed/ 4 SP Def Jolly (+Speed –SP Atk) -Dragon Dance -Outrage -Fire Punch -Heal Bell Well Dragonite well you dragon dance and then outrage. After that it will use heal bell to recover from confusion. Fire punch is for coverage only. Pretty basic. Machamp@Flame Orb Guts EVs: 252 Atk/252 Def/4 Speed Jolly (+Speed-SP Atk) -Power Trick -Substitute -Focus Punch -Fire Punch/Ice Punch/Thunder Punch This is a unique set because power trick will swap it's defense and attack stat making it a tank. When flame orb kicks in it will have a high attack stat. The regular focus punch and substitute is in this set. Any of the elemental punches would defeat a ghost type. Although flame orb limits survivability it will still be powerful as it is alive.  Weavile@Life Orb Pressure EVs: 252 Speed/252 Atk/4 Def Jolly (+Speed – SP Atk) -Swords Dance -Ice Shard -Low Kick -Night Slash Weavile is my revenge killer. With excellent speed it can do the job without any problems.
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nikodem123asdf

Posts: 274 UT points: 1343 Join date: 2009-10-12 Age: 20 Location: Poland
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:45 am | |
| my eyes hurt could you make a little more space petween each poke this way it is hard to read (on a big screen at least) |
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SirFunchalot

Posts: 44 UT points: 725 Join date: 2010-07-14 Age: 22
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:00 pm | |
| I'd much rather Rotom-F over Froslass just for the extra resistances it brings, and better STABs cuz 100% blizzard even without stab is pretty beastly. |
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SoulSilverHeartGold

Posts: 2485 UT points: 2728 Join date: 2009-08-12 Age: 14 Location: Canada
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:22 pm | |
| | SirFunchalot wrote: | | I'd much rather Rotom-F over Froslass just for the extra resistances it brings, and better STABs cuz 100% blizzard even without stab is pretty beastly. |
But Rotom can't learn spikes... |
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dragonmxz

Posts: 883 UT points: 1612 Join date: 2010-02-20 Age: 16 Location: The city of townsville
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:42 pm | |
| in doubles there isnt much switching, so entry hazards arent very useful aginst good teams, especially considering all the bronzongs. |
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SoulSilverHeartGold

Posts: 2485 UT points: 2728 Join date: 2009-08-12 Age: 14 Location: Canada
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:58 pm | |
| | dragonmxz wrote: | | in doubles there isnt much switching, so entry hazards arent very useful aginst good teams, especially considering all the bronzongs. |
True... but if i pokesav rotom-f it will have rotom's stats.... |
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Gir

Posts: 534 UT points: 1887 Join date: 2010-03-09 Age: 18
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:07 pm | |
| you do know ALL your team is weak to rock, right? _________________  Dan hitted the nail on how Gen V metagame is gonna be: | Spoiler: | | | UU youre used to weird ****, but in OU there are going to be SO many new options |
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SoulSilverHeartGold

Posts: 2485 UT points: 2728 Join date: 2009-08-12 Age: 14 Location: Canada
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:28 pm | |
| | Gir wrote: | | you do know ALL your team is weak to rock, right? |
Oh... didn't notice that... |
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dragonmxz

Posts: 883 UT points: 1612 Join date: 2010-02-20 Age: 16 Location: The city of townsville
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:30 pm | |
| get a moltres and your proble with rock will be solved XD maybe you should get something like machamp. |
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Pialga93

Posts: 717 UT points: 1391 Join date: 2009-11-03 Age: 18 Location: Illinois
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:04 am | |
| I can't help but feel Dragonite is out of place, I think a fighting type might work better to take care of rock and steel types. |
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SoulSilverHeartGold

Posts: 2485 UT points: 2728 Join date: 2009-08-12 Age: 14 Location: Canada
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:14 pm | |
| | Pialga93 wrote: | | I can't help but feel Dragonite is out of place, I think a fighting type might work better to take care of rock and steel types. |
Well I want support from heal bell just in case. |
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Darkravenn12

Posts: 433 UT points: 2186 Join date: 2009-05-04 Location: underworld
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:40 pm | |
| I agree i think u should run a bronzong or a machamp maybe instead of d-nite, it'll work much better. If your opponenet chooses to run a tyranitar in doubles, you'll be completely murdered, and if t-tar is scarfed, then even more so. Covering ur weakness is more important than heal bell. |
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SoulSilverHeartGold

Posts: 2485 UT points: 2728 Join date: 2009-08-12 Age: 14 Location: Canada
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:16 pm | |
| I have added gengar and machamp so what do you think? |
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Shnoogle

Posts: 1710 UT points: 3337 Join date: 2009-09-10 Age: 17 Location: Scranton
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:04 pm | |
| The machamp is unique to say the most... It is highly inferior to the standard set which is 248 HP / 252 Attack / 8 Speed (to outrun Blissey) with a moveset of D-Punch / Payback / Stone Edge / Substitute |
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Pialga93

Posts: 717 UT points: 1391 Join date: 2009-11-03 Age: 18 Location: Illinois
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:51 pm | |
| What happened to the froslass? |
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SoulSilverHeartGold

Posts: 2485 UT points: 2728 Join date: 2009-08-12 Age: 14 Location: Canada
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:04 am | |
| | Pialga93 wrote: | | What happened to the froslass? |
I decided to replace it with gengar.
EDIT:So should I start making the team or should I wait for more ideas? |
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Temius

Posts: 643 UT points: 1226 Join date: 2010-08-03 Age: 15
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:59 pm | |
| | SoulSilverHeartGold wrote: | | Pialga93 wrote: | | What happened to the froslass? |
I decided to replace it with gengar.
EDIT:So should I start making the team or should I wait for more ideas? |
this team is still very weak to rock. The only pokemon on your entire team that has a super-effective move against rock-types is machamp, and you can't entrust one single pokemon as your check to the rest of the teams weakness, especially one with a mediocre set like the one you are using. |
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ninjatreecko12

Posts: 461 UT points: 1218 Join date: 2009-12-22 Age: 14 Location: The Sooner State!
 | Subject: Re: Doubles hail team Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:19 pm | |
| Um Please don't revive dead threads. I think SSHG would have fixed any problems by now. |
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